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R1b has been in Europe for many thousands of years before Indo-European languages arrived.


The Basque language is not considered Indo-European. Gianfranco Forni is just one of many amateur...

Mammoth molars yield the oldest DNA ever sequenced


Researchers sequenced DNA from two mammoths that lived more than 1 million years ago, including a steppe mammoth (illustrated here), the direct...

As Jovialis explained, those are clusters, it has nothing to do with how one should be classified.

In the paper SZ19 comes out as having dna similar to TSI sample because they used very few reference samples in the study, IBS covers more the southwestern Europe and TSI the southern-central and...

There were unlikely Central Italians in Hungary, Mytrueancestry's labels are invented and completely inaccurate. Any kind of similarity has likely nothing to do with Italians but with a genetic...

Nothing more, Torzio.

Marino and Marina are common given names in Italy (same roots of the word "Mare").

Yes, indeed. On the other hand some of the Phoenicians (that would be more correct to call them in this case Punic) were actually assimilated Sardinian-Nuragics or Iberians.





I haven't said...

So we agree, we can't place total trust in geneticists. In some cases the errors they make (see Morocco_LN for the Sicilians) are easier to spot, other times they are harder to discover. We'll talk...

I'll ask you a question. So according to you Fernandes is right, Sicilians are half North African? As in his models you showed me earlier to make your point.

Yes but G25 is not a program, G25 is only a set of datasheets based on modern and ancient samples, with scaled or unscaled values. The G25 is used with nMonte which is not so different from qpAdm,...

It would be better to use Levant Natufian rather than Levant_PPNB that has a lot of EEF. Levant_PPNB can be modelled as almost 50% Natufian and 50% Anatolia_Barcin_N

There are not only these options. Generally speaking, I trust archaeologists far more than any academic or amateur geneticist.



Professionals adept are not exempt from agendas and mistakes....

Even using program made by others, Sardinians never reach 15% of Iran_N. This of inflating Iran_N is only a recent trend in academic studies. As we have seen so many times in the past, geneticists...

In the old models, percentages similar to those of Sardinians up to 20% and more (in the Basques). Now who knows, given the latest trend among geneticists, I imagine they will be at 20% Iran_N (I'm...

In fact also the Fernandes 2020 models on modern samples are not very credible. Fernandes is the same who models Sicilians as 46.9% North African using Moroccan Late Neolithic (he literally says that...

The Sardinians, particularly the HGDP sample, has long been modelled as 85% EEF and 15% WHG. When no one in northern Italy, as I remember, has ever reached 15+% WHG. Now how Sardinians can reach 15%...

I would not swear to the accuracy of Iran_N's percentages in this paper. One has to see what reference ancient samples she exactly used.

I've checked in the supp info. For example as reference...

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Cecchinelli is from Cecchinello diminutive of Cecco, from Francesco. There are many variants of this surname in Italy, Cecchi, Cecchini, Ceccuzzi, Ceccarelli and so on.

Maybe this, Loggas rather than Logkas

"An extensive Mycenaean cemetery with 31 undisturbed burials containing numerous items of jewellery and several different types of ceramic vases, including...

There is no evidence Lemnian was spoken in northern Greece. Apart from the handful of inscriptions found in Lemnos, this language is not attested anywhere else.

Y-DNA T-CTS3767 most likely arrived with the first European farmers during the Neolithic period and is not exclusively related to the Etruscans (the Etruscans were an Iron Age civilisation), it could...

I don't find it very accurate and lumping all the subclades of R1b U152 together can be confusing.

These were done very recently by another user, on two specific clades, Z36 and Z56, also based...

I'm going by memory, but apart from some specific cases (communities with known Germanic migrations dating back to the Middle Ages - such as the Cimbri of Veneto and Trentino, Walser of Piedmont and...

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Quick comment. I don't think 23andme is investigating the Italian cline as Angela says.

Don't forget that French & German in 23andme still seems to have a peak in the Swiss Alps....