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    That's possible, but I'd say its primarily...

    That's possible, but I'd say its primarily possible for those groups which were heavily mixed, showed large scale substrate or later adstrate effects, like the Dardanians. And in the regions which...
  2. This is particularly interesting since the...

    This is particularly interesting since the Phoceans were important for Sicily and closer related to Dorians than other Anatolian Greeks afaik. Also interesting that even at their estimate, less than...
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    They did reach the Aegean and Troy though,...

    They did reach the Aegean and Troy though, ultimately, because we have the regional Knobbed Ware, which was just part of the same movement and people. And in the end, the Thiny, Bithyny and probably...
  4. If they sample a larger portion of the Roman era...

    If they sample a larger portion of the Roman era inhabitants of Britain, France and Germany, they surely will find Italic-like, Greek-like and Near Eastern individuals, especially in the urban areas,...
  5. There is definitely a need for more samples. With...

    There is definitely a need for more samples. With more samples, individual biographies of ancient buried people might be possible, reconstructing in more detail where they came from. Like the Crypta...
  6. There was always trade, just a more limited one....

    There was always trade, just a more limited one. But the few specialised merchants won't produce a genetic shift, so it won't be the same as the frequency of travelling before.

    In the Imperial...
  7. First I think a lot of Romans from other...

    First I think a lot of Romans from other provinces were Noricum and Pannonia, secondly they were all Roman citizens and especially the urban inhabitants seem to have fled South en masse. You see it...
  8. The impact of the Langobards should have been...

    The impact of the Langobards should have been even bigger than that of the Goths and there were other Germanic movements as well. Its also noticeable that the Germanic shift started even before the...
  9. The basic would have been a mix of...

    The basic would have been a mix of Celtic-Pannonian with Imperial Roman admixture, but even before the province was collapsing, Germanics came into the region, lived and settled there. Just not as...
  10. From Edward James, Europe's Barbarians AD...

    From Edward James, Europe's Barbarians AD 200-600.

    Obviously not the whole population of Noricum was evacuated, but a significant portion of it was. These movements too might have caused a whole...
  11. I have no strong opinion on the matter, I just...

    I have no strong opinion on the matter, I just say that the Germanic contribution was significant, but whether it was that big even in Tuscany is indeed debatable.

    Did you ever encounter...
  12. We're still talking about a black box without...

    We're still talking about a black box without being able to look into it. Its quite obvious something is missing from the puzzle and it might be related to migrations within Italy and from non-old...
  13. You need to look at the uniparentals of that...

    You need to look at the uniparentals of that time, for being able to tell whether they support 20 percent Germanic admixture at that time. Also, you don't know the exact patrilinear composition of...
  14. And the most important non-R1b haplogroup in...

    And the most important non-R1b haplogroup in Rhaeto-Etruscans is G2.
  15. By the way, if you use Google translate for this...

    By the way, if you use Google translate for this interesting paper, you can find something about the burial customs of Lăpuș II, which was at the core of Gava.
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  16. Along the Alps and Danube was the connection...

    Along the Alps and Danube was the connection Western Hallstatt/Northern Italian Hallstatt related groups <-> Eastern Hallstatt <-> Thraco-Scythians <-> Basarabi/Daco-Moesians <-> Thracians (proper). ...
  17. The Pannonian territory was hard fought for,...

    The Pannonian territory was hard fought for, always, and there were two groups competing with each other or partitioning it, from Tumulus to Urnfield, the Middle Danubian to the West, the Carpathian...
  18. Part of the problem is that we don't really know...

    Part of the problem is that we don't really know how the Anatolians themselves plot. Especially the West Anatolians might plot from European Thracians to way more Eastern, and they might have shifted...
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    Its unknown how the surviving J-L283 made it to...

    Its unknown how the surviving J-L283 made it to SEE, but the most likely path imho is Caucasus -> Yamnaya -> EBA Mokrin -> MBA Pannonian-Balkan Tumulus Culture groups -> Glasinac-Mati Illyrians and...
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    It is absolutely for sure E-V13 did exist among...

    It is absolutely for sure E-V13 did exist among classical age Peleponnesians, the question is just which subclades and frequency! Because Psenichevo, the main Thracian group, directly to the North,...
  21. In general I'd say that the combination of I1 and...

    In general I'd say that the combination of I1 and R-U106 is always a safe starting point for debating about Germanic contributions. If just one of those two is present in a low percentage, we might...
  22. Interesting, for E-V13 this map alone is helpful...

    Interesting, for E-V13 this map alone is helpful to confirm that there seem to have been two to three centres, one in the North West, rather associated with Hallstatt, Ligurian and Lombards, the...
  23. Romanian is a Romance language, presumably with a...

    Romanian is a Romance language, presumably with a Daco-Moesian substrate and Albanian influence when large groups of the Vlachs sought refuge close to Albanian strongholds in Late Antiquity, which...
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    That's a very different region, which was up to...

    That's a very different region, which was up to Unetice times largely Bell Beaker in every respect, but it might give us a hint as to whether the introduction of TC was associated with some sort of...
  25. Dacians were Daco-Thracian people, related...

    Dacians were Daco-Thracian people, related especially to the Getae and Moesians, especially with Cimmerian, Scythian and later Celtic influences. But they were still Dacians, one of the main groups...
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