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    Thank you so much!

    Thank you so much!
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    I don't think Armenians came through the Balkans....

    I don't think Armenians came through the Balkans. I think that they went directly south from the Steppes and arrived in the South Caucasus sometime between 2500-2200 BCE. There are a few reasons I...
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    Nice to have you back, Demetrios! I hope that you...

    Nice to have you back, Demetrios! I hope that you enjoyed your vacation.

    I'll read your friend's whole article when I get time.

    From the excerpt that you linked, it'd be interesting if Thracian...
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    What was the Max Planck Institute looking into at...

    What was the Max Planck Institute looking into at Arslantepe? Do you know?
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    Interesting! Not that I don't believe you, but do...

    Interesting! Not that I don't believe you, but do you have a source for the satem being more conservative? I'd like to learn more about this theory!
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    Okay, because I thought I also read that they...

    Okay, because I thought I also read that they existed outside of the centum/satem binary?
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    Really interesting idea! I agree--it seems like...

    Really interesting idea! I agree--it seems like researchers are moving toward a PIE homeland south of the Caucasus (Reich, Damgaard, Wang, Grolle). I still don't understand why the Pre-Proto...
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    Were the Anatolian languages centum or did they...

    Were the Anatolian languages centum or did they exist outside of those categories? Either way, this could maybe support your theory of an original Anatolian Armenian...perhaps it just had a satem...
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    Yes, sorry for not having replied for a bit. I...

    Yes, sorry for not having replied for a bit. I have been traveling and now am in the process of moving, so I wasn't really keeping an eye on the forum as much! I hope that you're enjoying your...
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    It's not a "djuh" sound like the English J...

    It's not a "djuh" sound like the English J is--it's an entirely different sound. It's a "dzuh" sound--like a hard Z. I think in some dialects it's a little bit less harsh and intense, something more...
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    The Armenian word for "hand" is spelled with a ձ,...

    The Armenian word for "hand" is spelled with a ձ, which is voiced as dz. https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/ձ

    It comes from this word: https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/ձեռք#Old_Armenian

    I don't think...
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    That hand tree is interesting. The Greek and...

    That hand tree is interesting.

    The Greek and Armenian words do not seem as close to Albanian as they do other languages' versions of the word *ǵʰesr.

    To me, the Greek word looks to be the most...
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    It's not that they were from the North Caucasus,...

    It's not that they were from the North Caucasus, but from north OF the Caucasus...likely from somewhere in modern Ukraine. They may have been Thracians, or Thraco-Aryans (somewhere between Thracian...
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    How is does this sound? There was one big...

    How is does this sound?

    There was one big "Eastern" clade from which the following broke off:

    Armenian
    Phrygio-Hellenic (including Macedonian)
    Indo-Iranian
    Balto-Slavic
    Illyrian
    Dacian
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    This is just according to Herodotus. ...

    This is just according to Herodotus.



    You're talking about the Bryges, which likely just meant "hill people"...or as we'd say "highlanders"/"mountaineers". This name likely came from the PIE...
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    1) Phrygian was most closely related to Greek,...

    1) Phrygian was most closely related to Greek, according to Brixhe and others. It had variously been identified as Thracian, Anatolian, and Armenian in the past. As far as I know, no scholars have...
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    Thanks for the tables. When it says "Asia Minor"...

    Thanks for the tables. When it says "Asia Minor" (i.e the green triangles) I'm assuming this means Greeks from what is now Western Turkey, correct? So it appears that Pontics, and especially...
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    You probably already picked this up, but...

    You probably already picked this up, but Khalitu/Khaltik' again sounds like Hatti, Chaylbes, Halys, Hayasa, Khaldi, Hayk, Kartvelian, etc. We know that Khalitu was a separate place from Hatti, but...
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    Thanks for the information. I've read the...

    Thanks for the information. I've read the Wikipedia sources, but you have a very good knowledge about Greek-history, so I wanted to know your thoughts. What are Pontians relationships to Cappadocian...
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    So do you believe those Western Black Sea cities...

    So do you believe those Western Black Sea cities are the earlier Greek settlements?

    Is the 9th century BCE the earliest we can trace the Pontians?

    Did the Urartians ever mention Greek speakers,...
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    @Demetrios, can you perhaps give any information...

    @Demetrios, can you perhaps give any information regarding your theories about the origins of the Pontic Greeks (Pontians) of the southeastern Black Sea coast? Thank you!
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    Part of the issue though is that you're referring...

    Part of the issue though is that you're referring to both ethnolinguistic groups and groups that happen to live in a certain geographic place by the same names, for example, Greeks. You're calling...
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    Lenab, clearly you and I are not, and never were,...

    Lenab, clearly you and I are not, and never were, in disagreement about this. I told you that you misunderstood what I had said.
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    Page 55 Because Greek and Phrygian were spoken...

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    Because Greek and Phrygian were spoken in the right place geographically. According to Hamp and some other researchers, Greeks came through the Caucasus, crossed Anatolia, to the...
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    I didn't say Thracians were Greeks. I said that...

    I didn't say Thracians were Greeks. I said that Macedonians were, or very similar to them. I said that Phrygians were close to Greeks. All of this is pretty widely accepted by modern researchers (I...
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