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  1. Ok, I understand, In Italy lots of time people...

    Ok, I understand, In Italy lots of time people stay in towns and regions that there, Great, Great, Great Grandparents live and it is probably easier for Italians to go back in time once the civil...
  2. KingJohn: Is that a forum here at Eupedia. They...

    KingJohn: Is that a forum here at Eupedia. They look reasonable, and I used Eurogenes K13, which it and other Eurogenes calculators based on lots of data I have seen personally and here by the...
  3. Dimanto: For the record, not that you meant it in...

    Dimanto: For the record, not that you meant it in a disrespectful way, but no need to take a shot at Americans of Italian ancestry if those folks are indeed Americans of Italian ancestry. There are...
  4. Dimanto_Ruben: I am not sure they are American of...

    Dimanto_Ruben: I am not sure they are American of Italian ancestry. Maybe they are? Kingjohn would know. Here are the top 10 distances for each of those. A619640 is very close to Greek populations,...
  5. Well on my Fathers side, his Fathers parents were...

    Well on my Fathers side, his Fathers parents were born in Trapani Province, Valle Di Belice (the area of the 1968 Earthquake in Sicily. My Fathers Mother's father was born in Agrigento province, a...
  6. DimantoRuben: Thanks for the post. The results...

    DimantoRuben: Thanks for the post. The results you see in in my post #410 are my results compared to the 11 Italians that KingJohn provided GEDMATCH Kit Numbers in his post 381. All those GEDMATCH...
  7. KingJohn: Thanks again, I have never made my...

    KingJohn: Thanks again, I have never made my GEDMATCH kit number available for other users, only researchers. Are these folks that you have the Kit numbers for people you have met on this site, or...
  8. KingJohn: I assume those are individuals and no...

    KingJohn: I assume those are individuals and no population samples. I quickly compared my K13_updated samples with 4 of the samples from Sicily, 1 from Trapani, where 2 Great Grandparents were born...
  9. Ygorcs: I was just experimenting with some...

    Ygorcs: I was just experimenting with some samples from Eurogenes K13 Ancient. I just used 64 samples from Mesolithic and Neolithic, no Roman Samples, except the WHG, and wanted to see what model fit...
  10. Ok, I appreciate your response. So again, the...

    Ok, I appreciate your response. So again, the context I laid out above is is the major context of my post when you get down to it. As I have noted several times, My Ancestry DNA results says 97%...
  11. Very reasonable post. I actually had a hint about...

    Very reasonable post. I actually had a hint about the differences in Steppe populations based on that paper that modeled Steppe EHG about 60% and CHG/Iran_NEO about 40%. One only look at the...
  12. Ygorcs: I agree with you when your dealing with...

    Ygorcs: I agree with you when your dealing with academics who are trying to reconstruct history of populations, a few percents here or there will not matter. For me personally, I think research...
  13. Ok, then the average Sicilian not having less...

    Ok, then the average Sicilian not having less than 5% is not 100% correct, wouldn't you agree, 2/3 will be +/- 1 Standard deviation, 95% will be +/- 2 Standard deviations, so for the sake of...
  14. Ok, so let me follow your line of reasoning, lets...

    Ok, so let me follow your line of reasoning, lets take the CHG/Iran_NEO that came in after the Neolithic period, and leave out the Levant admixture. I don't have the paper in front of me but didn't...
  15. Leopoldo: Interesting data, the Pheonicians...

    Leopoldo: Interesting data, the Pheonicians founded the Port in Palermo probably between 800BC and 700BC. Carthage was founded by them as well. There clearly was a trade network among Palermo,...
  16. Ygorcs: You refuse to answer the question, is it...

    Ygorcs: You refuse to answer the question, is it a Mean or lower limit of a range. So if is the lowest Average amount, then I think you are calling it a "mean" correct? So if it is a "mean" which is...
  17. Ygorcs: Why the high distances, because those are...

    Ygorcs: Why the high distances, because those are Mesolithic to Neolithic sources. There by definition is No Steppe at all in there, which there is in Sicily and Southern Italy as well. And again, I...
  18. Ratchet_Fan: Not sure, and I don't want to...

    Ratchet_Fan: Not sure, and I don't want to speculate about something that I can't say with close to 100% certainty. There is enough of that crap going on here about Sicily and Southern Italy already....
  19. Ygorcs: In your post #340, what does 5%...

    Ygorcs:

    In your post #340, what does 5% Levant+North African_Early Neolithic represent. Is it the Mean? Is it the lowest end of a range?, Tell me what it means in terms of Univariate Statistics?
  20. Ygorcs: In theory, wouldn't everything in Italy...

    Ygorcs: In theory, wouldn't everything in Italy already be "Eastern Med" shifted before the MLBA given the Neolithic migration from Anatolia had already reached Italy by 6,500 BC as this recent paper...
  21. Well said and the fact is they are using Post...

    Well said and the fact is they are using Post Civil War Reconstruction period and Jim Crow period laws that were designed to disenfranchise as many people as possible so as to restore the ruling...
  22. Salento: Well if someone has the onions to say...

    Salento: Well if someone has the onions to say you are, then using some WW2 analogies call in the B-17's and B-24's (ETO) or the B-29's(PTO) and drop your MTA Deep Dive analysis here.

    I think that...
  23. Regio_X: thanks for the response. After going...

    Regio_X: thanks for the response. After going through all the posts in the thread, I can agree that as a "statistical Model" G25 is valid. Again as a model. So for example, OLS Regression is a valid...
  24. Regio_X: Nice analysis in post #275. I respect...

    Regio_X: Nice analysis in post #275. I respect the diplomacy and caution with your statement "possibly overstated by G25" but I think a 2.3/2.4 to 3.3 time magnitude in difference in admixture is...
  25. Riverman: As an addendum to my Post #137, here is...

    Riverman: As an addendum to my Post #137, here is my model fit using the more parsimonious Dodecad K7. Just to reiterate, the 3 models in my post 137 and the one in this thread are only using the 11...
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