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  1. But you only name E1b1b, G2a*(xG2a3b1), J1 and J2...

    But you only name E1b1b, G2a*(xG2a3b1), J1 and J2 Middle Eastern while you name R1b West European...who are you trying to fool?
  2. You are right but I use expelled for both Greeks...

    You are right but I use expelled for both Greeks and Turks because it wasn't something they chose to do (leave their homes) but were forced to do it...
  3. Yes, you are right...if we behaved like them we...

    Yes, you are right...if we behaved like them we should name R1b's and I1's the haplogroups that lead to racism, superiority complex, depression and serial killers...
  4. I'm not against any haplogroup or people...

    I'm not against any haplogroup or people Carlitos, I don't dislike R1b's or E1b1b's or C's or whatever. Haplogroups can only reveal human migration patterns (allthough the exact time that this...
  5. DejaVu you have to start reading what the others...

    DejaVu you have to start reading what the others write in order to reply with at least some credibility. I never claimed that Greeks are pure (NO modern nation is pure) I have made it perfectly clear...
  6. How do you know that? You would have to know...

    How do you know that? You would have to know exactly who the ancient Greeks were to compare them with modern Greeks to prove your statement. But you don't even know who your ancestors were...
  7. In fact it is YOU who think that R1b is a...

    In fact it is YOU who think that R1b is a superior haplogroup (Kings and nobles of the Indo-Europeans) and E1b1b is a haplogroup that leads to lazyness and corruption. I don't give a shit if we have...
  8. Again I'm not claiming anything, it's a...

    Again I'm not claiming anything, it's a historical fact. Have you ever heard of the Greek-Turkish population ex-change of 1922?
    Any way in Ionia region there should be some Greek blood, either from...
  9. Nope, the Ionian region is not different than...

    Nope, the Ionian region is not different than other Turkish regions (at least not that much different)...It is the Ionian GREEKS who USED TO LIVE in the Ionian region who are different than Turks...
  10. Your lies about Greece just don't have an end, do...

    Your lies about Greece just don't have an end, do they? Northern Greece has 20.5% of E1b1b, Crete is over 10% and NO island was ever found to have less then 5%. Come on Maciamo, three lies in a row?
  11. Allthough there were Turkish speaking Orthodox...

    Allthough there were Turkish speaking Orthodox people in Sebasteia and Western Pontus who identified as Greeks, my fathers family (and all people in their village) who trace their origins there spoke...
  12. I'm not the one who claims Anatolian Turks don't...

    I'm not the one who claims Anatolian Turks don't have a lot of original Turkish blood, scientific papers do.
    Can you read? Can you understand what you read?
    I never claimed that Western Anatolian...
  13. Other mistakes of Maciamo. With his method Greek...

    Other mistakes of Maciamo. With his method Greek R1b=15.8 which would become 16 not 15.5... little incosistances that reveal the bias towards Greeks.
  14. Have you read any of my posts? Because Ionian...

    Have you read any of my posts? Because Ionian Greeks were expelled from Turkey (after 1922) and they all currently live in Greece, not much left in Turkey. That's why so little E-V13 is left there,...
  15. And it seems that he uses the average for each...

    And it seems that he uses the average for each region to get final results only for Greece and not for Italy...I just used the same way he uses for Greece about Italy and the out come is totally...
  16. Hahaha!!! I just visited the Eupedia Y-DNA tables...

    Hahaha!!! I just visited the Eupedia Y-DNA tables and it seems Maciamo has put I2*+I2a (I2a1) under the same category while he kept I2b (I2a2) under it's own. How is it possible to connect I2* with...
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    The Visi-Goths didn't settle in Epirus or...

    The Visi-Goths didn't settle in Epirus or Aetolia. Nor did they settle in Smyrna or Peloponnese...
  18. If you think that feelings are animal insticts...

    If you think that feelings are animal insticts you are hillarious. Especially hate which is human specific...
    BTW cherry-picking a shortened phrase out of a post doesn't help your cause, right next...
  19. The Jews are millions but they suffer from...

    The Jews are millions but they suffer from multiple founder effects too. For example haplogroup Q that is 5% in Jews is beleived to be a founder effect that happened around 800 CE...if the founder...
  20. If I guess right Eastern Anatolian Greeks should...

    If I guess right Eastern Anatolian Greeks should be closer to Cretans and Cypriotes (because of ancient Anatolian origin) allthough Cretans received more NW European influence (I1, R1b-L11) while...
  21. That is also a good point. You see Smyrna had...

    That is also a good point. You see Smyrna had such a long and continous Greek presence
    (from 10th cent. BCE to 1922 CE/ 3000 years!!!!) -Greeks being allways the majority- that is the least...
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    I guess that using R1b-M269 for R1b1a2 or R1b-L23...

    I guess that using R1b-M269 for R1b1a2 or R1b-L23 for R1b1a2a or R1b-U152 for R1b1a2a1a1b3 or E-V13 for E1b1b1a2 is less confusing for everyone
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    Yes R1b1a2 is so well studied that includes...

    Yes R1b1a2 is so well studied that includes sub-clades with 10 or 11 charachters used for their name...it is propably because most geneticists come from West Europe or US so they are more interested...
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    You make sense but I think that the nomenclature...

    You make sense but I think that the nomenclature should be revized because it gives better knowledge of how haplogroups are connected into the tree...
    For example the new nomenclature of I allows us...
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    Maciamo don't you use the new classification...

    Maciamo don't you use the new classification system for haplogroup I where I2b is named I2a2 and ex-I2a2 is named I2a1b?
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