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    So far we can say only that, Myceneans and...

    So far we can say only that, Myceneans and Minoans were related by their ydna but their auDNA was distinct at some point. The Myceneans were partly steppe people while Minoans were totally descended...
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    Seems that noone here has an opinion on who were...

    Seems that noone here has an opinion on who were these Proto Myceneans. Let alone who were proto Minoans
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    When I say "proto Mycenean", I mean the people...

    When I say "proto Mycenean", I mean the people whom came from the Eurasian steppes as warrior elite and founded the Mycenean civilization. I generally don't use the term "Greek" for ancient Hellenes...
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    It looks like that J2a1 was around the same as...

    It looks like that J2a1 was around the same as E1b during Neolithic. Am I right?

    What do you think about the proto Mycenean ydna ? Which was the ydna of these first proto Mycenean chieftains...
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    1- I asked you for an opinion on proto Myceneans...

    1- I asked you for an opinion on proto Myceneans ydna. I didn't asked for any definitive conclusion from you.
    2- How in hell you know what was Illyrian dna ? As far as I know both two bronze age...
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    How you know it? Not enough evidence.

    How you know it? Not enough evidence.
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    You're right, but ydna helps to understand our...

    You're right, but ydna helps to understand our origins, especially on this thread. If we find an ancient skeleton from Mycenae which belongs to J2a1, than it is clear that certain nationalistic...
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    Thank you for your info. Anyway, J2b2 L283 is...

    Thank you for your info. Anyway, J2b2 L283 is still present there, right? Probably it has an Balkanik origin.

    We should not overestimate this "founding efect" theory. So far we have only two...
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    Anyway, Vlachs are descendants of a fusion...

    Anyway, Vlachs are descendants of a fusion between Romans and native Balkanide people.
    Closest natural living language to the Albanian, is the Balkanik romance.
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    If we stay at the same region for centuries or...

    If we stay at the same region for centuries or either millennia, than obviously Greeks and Albans would be autosomally close. However the ydna is important here to understand our origins, especially...
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    The Greek and Alban ydna doesn't look too kin....

    The Greek and Alban ydna doesn't look too kin. It's clear to me that modern Greeks share a lot of more Mycenean ydna than their Alban neighbors.
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    In simple words, the modern geographic shape of...

    In simple words, the modern geographic shape of Gheg- Tosk split, most have occurred when this road was still in full use
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    This means, proto Albanians were present further...

    This means, proto Albanians were present further south of Via Egnatia when the Roman control was still present there, and whether had full control of this ancient road.
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    The border between two speaking areas seems to...

    The border between two speaking areas seems to have been ancient via Egnatia. I wish I have any source until when this road was in full use. As far as I know it was abandoned when the Slavs...
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    Poll: [QUOTE=Ownstyler;571616]I gave ample evidence...

    That's right too. Judaism is a religion. Anyone may be converted at one point, especially now days
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    Poll: That's pretty clear. I'm just questioning, if...

    That's pretty clear. I'm just questioning, if I2a1 spread with the early Slavs, then why it peaks in southslavs and not in east slavs or in west Slavs ?! In East and west Slavs is prevalent the R1a...
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    Poll: That haplo is a majority only in Bosniaks,...

    That haplo is a majority only in Bosniaks, Montenegrins and Croats. In some extent whether in Serbs. In other nations of Slavic origin, I2a din is a minority, which is overlapped by R1a.
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    J2b2 in India and in Afghanistan is a remain of...

    J2b2 in India and in Afghanistan is a remain of the Macedonian invasion. Macedonians were southern Illyrians whom got heavily influenced by the Hellenic civilization. Not mentioning that some...
  19. Macedonians were of Illyrian stock. Modern greeks...

    Macedonians were of Illyrian stock. Modern greeks know this well. Hence they don't allow the examination of these Macedonian tombs. So far they have found there Illyrian bronze helmets. If I was...
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    There are plenty of cases in human history where...

    There are plenty of cases in human history where the ruling class used as official another language. Turkic Bulgars for example. Greek language was used as lingua Franka in Mediterranean at that...
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    Anatolian languages were centum, and not only but...

    Anatolian languages were centum, and not only but they are considered archaic with the possible date of split circa/maximum 4000bce. It corresponds with the split of R1b PF7562 from its sibling R1b...
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    Definitely, if we want today to have a better...

    Definitely, if we want today to have a better view on ydna of ancient Myceneans , the better place or people to look at would be Greek Cypriots. Forget about the rest of the modern Greeks. Too much...
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    What else they might be! Any ethnic IE group...

    What else they might be! Any ethnic IE group within the IE family bear a distinct ydna haplotype. And PF7562 corresponds very well with the possible time split of Anatolian languages from their IE...
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    According to ancient writers, Phrygians migrated...

    According to ancient writers, Phrygians migrated in Anatolia from the Balkans. The Illyrian tribe, Brygians were still there during the classical Greek times.

    Armenian is a satem language, and I...
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    As for the record, Hittites didn't came from the...

    As for the record, Hittites didn't came from the steppes. They had no steppe related ancestry. Even their IE language differed from the rest of IE languages.
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