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    Good explanation, IMO giving it a generalized...

    Good explanation, IMO giving it a generalized label for now as Eastern Urnfield Cultures is more correct to differentiate from Western Urnfield (Celtic, Villanova and Central/Western Europe...
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    I don't know, let's see when they publish,...

    I don't know, let's see when they publish, perhaps old samples are included as well.

    I also see interesting the appearance of R1b-L2 in Bronze Age and Iron Age.
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    R1b-PF7562, it's quite low in percentage among...

    R1b-PF7562, it's quite low in percentage among Albanians but overall Albanians have the highest of this Y-DNA subclade among others. Interesting indeed, and i do agree, it came with Yamnaya likely.
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    The Psenicevo samples for instance are not from...

    The Psenicevo samples for instance are not from 500 B.C, but Early Iron Age. And Psenicevo Culture is a culture descending somewhat between Gava Cultural complex and Noua-Sabatinovska-Coslogeni...
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    This thread is not about Lurs or Luristan, which...

    This thread is not about Lurs or Luristan, which has nothing to do with Illyria. No serious scholar has made any kind of analogy between these two words. Not that i am aware of.
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    What service? I barely know him. We are not here...

    What service? I barely know him. We are not here playing soccer games making affiliations. I take stuff which make sense. We do have starting points where we agree and disagree. For instance, i...
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    We already know about Neolithic, Cardium Pottery...

    We already know about Neolithic, Cardium Pottery Culture is the culture E-L618 is constantly being found. And this culture had Natufian/Iberomaurusian-like influence. It fits like gloves. But, the...
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    There was no E-V13 in Eneolithic, Eneolithic is...

    There was no E-V13 in Eneolithic, Eneolithic is transitional period between Late Neolithic and Chalcolithic/Early Bronze Age. That's a leak about Mesolithic, but i doubt he was positive E-V13, he was...
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    IMO, too deep in history to still make any...

    IMO, too deep in history to still make any reliable connection.

    Luristan looks like it means the land of Lurs, Lurs were Indo-Iranian people: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lurs. Indo-Iranians are...
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    Illyri proprie dictii means Illyrians proper as...

    Illyri proprie dictii means Illyrians proper as far as i know.

    Regarding territorial designation i think Illyrians from Montenegro were included into proprie dictii as well. Let's see. Don't...
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    I am actually quite interested if that sample is...

    I am actually quite interested if that sample is positive downstream E-V13 or just E-L618 and for the sake of simplicity they just added the orange color which is associated with E-V13.

    It has...
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    What we define archaeologically Illyrian which...

    What we define archaeologically Illyrian which encompasses Glasinac-Mat and became synonymous with that nowadays and what was initially Illyrian might differ, the first attested Illyrian kingdom was...
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    Actually, i said long time ago, Illyrians from...

    Actually, i said long time ago, Illyrians from Albania should look like Central Italians.
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    One thing to note, during Bronze Age i do expect...

    One thing to note, during Bronze Age i do expect E-V13 to be present, just that they were part of Southern Pannonian/East Slavonia cultural complex, like Vatin, Vatin successor was Belegis, so when...
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    Dardapara, Per Joachim Matzinger (Der...

    Dardapara,

    Per Joachim Matzinger (Der Illyrer, 2021 book), Illyrian and Albanian belong to two different branches within Indo-European language family. So, if J2b2-L283 is...
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    E-V13 from Bronze to Iron Age transition and...

    E-V13 from Bronze to Iron Age transition and onwards was the major Y-DNA in Balkans and that's evident. This is what people specialized in these field say.



    So, imagine if all people equally...
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    Exactly, it was already stated in Viminacium...

    Exactly, it was already stated in Viminacium paper:



    And latest Urnfield archaeological paper just confirms this:



    No wonder that the earliest E-V13 finds come from Early Iron Age...
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    One of the founders of KLA/UCK in Kosovo War,...

    One of the founders of KLA/UCK in Kosovo War, Adem Jashari, was E-V13, E-V13 => L241. He belonged to Berisha-Kuqi tribe, the Kuqi from Kosove have no relationship with the Berishas or the original...
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    Well, as expected. ...

    Well, as expected.

    https://i.imgur.com/D0RC6ri.png

    And, this is for some people still trying to make propaganda. Read it boldly.



    Another surprising thing for me, is that E-L618/E-V13...
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    Also, E-V13 were badly hit by Slavic migrations,...

    Also, E-V13 were badly hit by Slavic migrations, this goes against the assumption of people saying that the Slavs brought additional E-V13.
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    Actually, i am seeing a very-very minor...

    Actually, i am seeing a very-very minor percentage of E-V13/E-L618 in Mesolithic times.

    edit: Indeed, E-L618/E-V13 was present in Mesolithic times along G2a, probably in the shores between...
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    I am also wondering about G2a, notice how good...

    I am also wondering about G2a, notice how good their percentage was during 0-500, 500-1500? Where are their modern representatives then? It could be that the study might suffer from sampling bias....
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    Because of archaeogenetics, during Bronze to Iron...

    Because of archaeogenetics, during Bronze to Iron Age transition various inter-related groups from Balkan-Carpathian hemisphere, starting from Vatin up north to Gava-Nyirseg which were the original...
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    Ancient Balkans Y-DNA lineages

    In one leak a screenshot was taken in a upcoming Y-DNA from Mesolithic, Neolithic, Bronze, Iron Age, Roman and Medieval times from Balkans.

    https://i.imgur.com/D0RC6ri.png


    Mesolithic Balkans...
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    Also, interesting to note that Marija Gimbutas...

    Also, interesting to note that Marija Gimbutas said that the way Homer described Patroclus burial (no matter if this character never existed) with cremation on a pyre resembles the Urnfield Culture...
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