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1. Protovillanovia Martinsicuro (930 BC) ..... 5.076 - R1 -
Top 99% match vs all users


4. Illyrian / Dalmatian (1200 BC) ..... 8.937 - I3313 -
Top 98% match vs...

we basically have very similar samples in most categories

Stuvane number 1 is the same as mine, clearly this adriatic sample is aligned to north-italians and maybe even Dalmatians

check this site out ..............they also deal with the asiatic Denisovans

https://www.eva.mpg.de/genetics/neandertals-and-more/overview.html?Fsize=0Frickel

Do we also assume that Paeonians who lived between Macedonians and Dardanians are also "illyrians "?

@salento

Unsure how long you have been doing dna research ..............but in the past Ftdna had a side branch called ysearch, this would give you matches in their database, myself and Huracan (...

It might mean you line passed through the same lands as these samples but not related

it goes DE and CF groups
then C and F split
F becomes GHIJK

best to try MLDP K23b


mine below

MDLP K23b Oracle Rev 2014 Sep 16

Admix Results (sorted):

the current T tree from yfull for our line ........................note YF67318 is Belgium and other BEL is his brother...............and ERS256892 is the trentino sample which has Z19945 , strange...

my only
Your Outlier Samples.

131. Western-Scythian Black Sea (290 BC) ..... 22.07 - MJ34 -
Top 43% match vs all users

152. Hellenic Seleucid Anatolia (165 BC) ..... 23.45 - MA2198 - ?...

Both Curtiss and Brooks ( born 1640 )are from Stratford Connecticut..................originally cornish UK

interesting paper

https://www.biorxiv.org/content/10.1101/867317v1

AbstractThe genomes of humans outside Africa originated almost entirely from a single migration out ~50,000-60,000 years...

Yfull first match with me on same group

https://i.postimg.cc/9QGLDc91/brucke.png

I went as far back as I could and the original surname was Brucke from Hanover Germany

they are related to...

do we have anything more on this crusader

Sidon Crusader ( 700 yBP - Medieval )


SI-42
Y-DNA: T1a-M70 (xCTS10577, CTS8051, FGC1272, FGC1249, CTS11626, CTS7001, CTS382, FGC1180, PF5521,...

This below is the imperial numbers......where did you get the repulican numbers ?

Imperial Rome based on 24 samples from Antonio et al:


29.1 % J2a-M410 7
20.8 % G2a2 5
16.6 % J1a 4
8.3 %...

from eurogenes .................samples that match other samples

R850 to non-Imperial/later Italian or modern samples:

Anatolia_MLBA:MA2203,
Germany_Early_Medieval:STR300,
...

Do we have anything on these "san marino" samples .................see link

R16
mtDNA: U5b2b3

R17
mtDNA: U8b1b
Y-DNA: J-M304

R18

not yet

here is another with a link which will be benefit to you

https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/full/10.1080/1354571X.2018.1535939?scroll=top&needAccess=true

I will await

“Disentangling fine-scale population movements and interactions in the Italian Veneto Area: an archaeogenetic diachronic study of the inhabitants of Lamon”


Summary: This...

Bari ultimately from Latin Barium.
From Latin Barium, probably from Messapic; an appellative akin to *bauria, *burion (“house”),

my wife new test .................I did not bother with the ones beginning with 11.0


1. Cisalpine Gaul (590 AD) ..... 6.716 - SZ45 -
Top 99% match vs all users

2. Medieval Hungary /...

my first cousin. once removed from Val di Non, Trentino ........................I did not bother about getting the ones beginning with 10.0



1. Protovillanovia Martinsicuro (930 BC) ..... 4.445...

I think there are genetic differences , especially since the ostrogoths where in the area of black sea Ukraine, Moldova ( and crimea) for over 500 years.........clearly, plenty of time to get some...

so there is no knowledge of what the dacians spoke before speaking Latin ?