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  1. Do you understand that Posth's explanation is...

    Do you understand that Posth's explanation is very weak, or not? It is only statistics, the same statistics used for years to make us to believe that Etruscans were not autochthonous and come from...
  2. They are saying that originally are more similar...

    They are saying that originally are more similar to Central Italian IA groups.

    All samples are from Campania, including the Villanovan/Etruscans.

    https://i.imgur.com/zvfz03q.jpg
  3. You're doing it all wrong. Because you're too...

    You're doing it all wrong. Because you're too obsessed with what the outcome might be for Southern Italy.

    The paper on Campania is coming out, and it concludes that the Campanian/Italics were like...
  4. This is the latest July 2021 chart from a...

    This is the latest July 2021 chart from a non-academic Italian project.

    https://i.imgur.com/ho1om0f.png
  5. It remains unclear to me what those samples have...

    It remains unclear to me what those samples have to do with the Etruscans.
  6. It is really not understandable why they ended up...

    It is really not understandable why they ended up in this study. It's not even an area where there were Etruscans.
  7. By contrast, the newly reported central Italian...

    By contrast, the newly reported central Italian individuals from 800 to 1 BCE show ~75% frequency of the Y-chromosome haplogroup R1b, mostly represented by the R1b-P312 polymorphism and its derived...
  8. No, I don't know, sorry. I think publication...

    No, I don't know, sorry. I think publication should be forthcoming.
  9. Still unclear, it doesn't even seem to match the...

    Still unclear, it doesn't even seem to match the samples from the Campania study.





    Indeed. Considering the changes due to Romanization though. I hope that very soon there will be Etruscan...
  10. From a conference, not published yet. In...

    From a conference, not published yet.



    In fact, they have few samples from the imperial age. There are many more from the Iron Age.

    The important part of the paper remains the one on the...
  11. apparently the Etruscans were overwhelming R1b,...

    apparently the Etruscans were overwhelming R1b, and to a lesser extent G2a

    https://i.imgur.com/caHjbMt.png
  12. Higher percentages of WHG and EEF, confirming...

    Higher percentages of WHG and EEF, confirming that the Eastern thesis is not true.
  13. PCA is from a conference, so yes official. The...

    PCA is from a conference, so yes official. The paper not out yet.
  14. VOL, CAM, UDC, CSN, MAG, MAS, ETR, PRZ, VET,...

    VOL, CAM, UDC, CSN, MAG, MAS, ETR, PRZ, VET, VEU, POP are all from Tuscany.

    TAQ = Tarquinia from Lazio.

    VEN is not from Etruria, likely from Campania.

    Outliers seem few. The Etruscans...
  15. Ancient genomics reveals tripartite origins of Japanese populations

    Ancient genomics reveals tripartite origins of Japanese populations

    SCIENCE ADVANCES• 17 Sep 2021 • Vol 7, Issue 38 •

    DOI: 10.1126/sciadv.abh2419


    Abstract

    Prehistoric Japan underwent...
  16. TSI is a subset used by Metspalu of TSI, from...

    TSI is a subset used by Metspalu of TSI, from unknown locality in the province of Florence, Tuscan is Tuscan HGDP, according to CEPH it's from the province of Grosseto (Colline Metallifere).



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    Très intéressant, Moesan. I will read it well as...

    Très intéressant, Moesan. I will read it well as soon as I can.
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    On K13 West Asian and South Asian have nothing to...

    On K13 West Asian and South Asian have nothing to do with Roman-like autosomal dna.
  19. I agree with you that with the two-way models you...

    I agree with you that with the two-way models you can support anything, even that the Celts came from the Caucasus and the Germans from Bulgaria... just saying.
  20. Baltic is already present in Etruscans and...

    Baltic is already present in Etruscans and Latins. Were the Etruscans and Latins also descended from Slavic migrations that are later than them? It seems clear to me that the Baltic = Slavic equation...
  21. What are we talking about? K13 Baltic? Or the...

    What are we talking about? K13 Baltic? Or the Slavs?




    It is only confined to a few border areas in northeastern Italy that cannot explain much else. Slovenes are 2 million people, Italians...
  22. It's Baltic, not Slavic. Even Calabrians get 5%...

    It's Baltic, not Slavic. Even Calabrians get 5% of Baltic. But there are no documented Slavic mass migrations in Italy to be able to explain values between 5 and 16%.
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    This was already known. The real difference is...

    This was already known. The real difference is with the rest of France.





    There is an academic sample from Provence that is used in some amateur calculator and ends up closer to northern...
  24. It is clear that geneticists cannot be expected...

    It is clear that geneticists cannot be expected to be as accurate as possible. Studies are riddled with errors.





    I don't think there are any new samples tested for this study.
  25. Ok, it was the preprint, I didn't see that. We...

    Ok, it was the preprint, I didn't see that. We merge the threads then, thanks.
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