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  1. Poll: African or middle east, which tribe exactly hard...

    African or middle east, which tribe exactly hard to say. Definitely not European or "ilyrian"

    Almost non existant in Europe and where it is found in europe it probably came from slaves, invaders...
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    Ti akoma flet si debile, ik ba na nji appointment...

    Ti akoma flet si debile, ik ba na nji appointment me doktorin

    Someone asked about my surname for some reason so I gave the response, what you on about excuses? You probably have a Muslim invader...
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    Percentages are everything, I follow gjenetika...

    Percentages are everything, I follow gjenetika and other sites to understand why certain people look a certain way. Albanians clearly look different to most of their neighbours and so do their...
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    No one cares about your feelings, we are here to...

    No one cares about your feelings, we are here to discuss j2b m205 and the proof is it has nothing to do with albanians. One being found there whatever years ago doesn't mean anything, the subclade is...
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    L283 could be dardani but only if it was a...

    L283 could be dardani but only if it was a relevant tribe, their stronghold was mostly in the North East albania and kosova region. If dardani were trojans or related maybe it would explain j2b l283
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    Ok, so you finally admit it isn't Albanian it...

    Ok, so you finally admit it isn't Albanian it just became so like the i2s, question is was this male accepted into the community or did he rape a lady and she kept the boy?

    I understand you...
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    Does anyone have any deeper information on the...

    Does anyone have any deeper information on the dardani? Where did they come from, what year and did they have a successful reign in their region or were they wiped out/fully assimilated?
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    E-V13 has nothing to do with Saudis, they mostly...

    E-V13 has nothing to do with Saudis, they mostly belong to J1

    E-V13 has as much to do with Saudis as R1b and I1, zero
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    This doesn't make any sense, if e-v13 was in...

    This doesn't make any sense, if e-v13 was in Western balkans 2500 BC it is likely ilyrian/proto ilyrian and definitely became ilyrian for the next 2-3 thousand years. Also where are you plucking...
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    Whatever dude, j2b m205 has nothing to do with...

    Whatever dude, j2b m205 has nothing to do with albanians, it is found much more in serbia and Middle East, less than 1% in Albanians meanwhile j2b l283 is almost 20%. Where it came from is the...
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    Who gives a shit what expanded the last 600...

    Who gives a shit what expanded the last 600 years, all populations did so explain why V13 is strongest in Albania. V13 not being founded in Albania doesn't mean it is not ilyrian, it came from...
  12. What are you on about? There are far more...

    What are you on about?

    There are far more blonde albanians than south slavs, do your research. The typical serbian look is probably Djokovic or Ibrahim Presevic who actually plays for Kosovo. You...
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    Me not being tested has nothing to do with this....

    Me not being tested has nothing to do with this. You keep dancing around the facts, it is found almost 6% in Serbs and less than 1% in albanians, it is NOT albanian in origin and has nothing to do...
  14. You don't look like a jevg nor an Asian, maybe...

    You don't look like a jevg nor an Asian, maybe the eyes are similar but I see that you wear glasses, it could be a health thing instead of genetic. Do your parents have "Asian" eyes?

    I would say...
  15. I mean why shouldn't they look like southern...

    I mean why shouldn't they look like southern Albanians? What do you think is the typical southern albanian look compared to north? I've come across a lot of blonde southerns too I mean my grandad was...
  16. Not sure about gjirokaster but most vlonjatet...

    Not sure about gjirokaster but most vlonjatet look northern

    Igli Tare makes even northern europeans look African haha
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  17. Hard to say with the hair, I'd say you look...

    Hard to say with the hair, I'd say you look italian, bulgarian etc. I'm not sure what a typical southern european is anymore, there are quite a few blondes who easily fit into all northern european...
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    Only 6 out of 839 albanians (less than 1%) so far...

    Only 6 out of 839 albanians (less than 1%) so far have j2b m205 and most of it is found in the south

    "According to Serbian DNA project, haplogroup J2b1 - M205 is represented with 5,86% (July,...
  19. Thread: J1 ysc235

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    Most J1 is arab in origin, some moved out to find...

    Most J1 is arab in origin, some moved out to find new life, some moved out as conquerers and some stayed

    That 6% north African and 2% East African points to an ancestor from that region but some...
  20. Haplogroup is the most important thing, it shows...

    Haplogroup is the most important thing, it shows what tribe you belong to. If you have for example a country/region of 80% the same haplogroup then they WILL look similar, no doubt about it
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    What do you mean by indo european exactly? What...

    What do you mean by indo european exactly? What age are you talking about here? The ancestor of v13 was mediterranean z1919 according to your chart. I don't think these charts are reliable anyway,...
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    Came together? Unlikely, came to Europe at a...

    Came together? Unlikely, came to Europe at a similar period, sure. But from different background, language, area

    The fact that v13 is strong in balkans points to it being an elite race that...
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    Ottoman were conquerers but not because they were...

    Ottoman were conquerers but not because they were strong because they were numerous. I am not a fan of conquerers as much as I am of defenders. So no, it isn't cool at all to descend from criminal...
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    It is ridiculous to think ottoman left no...

    It is ridiculous to think ottoman left no genetics in balkans, they did not only with the first wave of their middle eastern origin/arab soldiers but likely also later on when they took in balkan...
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    Almost all of e-v13 in Greece is recent Albanian...

    Almost all of e-v13 in Greece is recent Albanian or illyrian, a lot of albanians have migrated and converted to Greek throughout history and still happens today

    In my opinion balkan ottoman...
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