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  1. Whats the source for the map?

    Whats the source for the map?
  2. With respect to "Mycenaean-like" autosomal...

    With respect to "Mycenaean-like" autosomal results of Albanians, please keep in mind that archaeologically myceneans literally did have soldiers from west balkans and even italy serving for them:
    ...
  3. How did those middle bronze age E-V13 branches...

    How did those middle bronze age E-V13 branches get to Sardinia. Some branches getting piggybacked later on by germanics, etc, can be feasible, but all of them, and all of them maintaining a mean...
  4. He literally never once said that so how could I...

    He literally never once said that so how could I agree to that.
    That is a demented paranoid straw man projection of the Huban/Aspurg type.

    I agree with him that sardinian ev13, 10 out of all 27...
  5. You are the one that derailed it. I posted...

    You are the one that derailed it. I posted interesting point by him which still stands about sardinian ev13, and you tried to discredit it and hand waive it by syaing he is J2b-L283, and trying to...
  6. I do not really respect your opinion here. ...

    I do not really respect your opinion here.

    Especially seeing how acceptiny you are when it comes to huban/asurg and how prone you are to paranoiac conspiracy thinking from whay i've seen in the...
  7. No it's not because we don't yet know the...

    No it's not because we don't yet know the archaeological source of the Balkan Dardani. We know the region of Dardania roughly at the Roman province times, and from that it has been extrapolated up to...
  8. I really think you should be more skeptical and...

    I really think you should be more skeptical and wait, do not lump Dardanians so easily into the "Daco-Thracian" group. They are one of the earliest mentioned Balkan ethnic groups and mentioned before...
  9. Macurdy argued that Dardanians were a people...

    Macurdy argued that Dardanians were a people known particularly for knowledge of metal working & mining, and possibly early users of iron.


    Even in the Roman period, Dardania was considered...
  10. I think there is enough evidence now to consider...

    I think there is enough evidence now to consider Illyrian, Messapians, as a more probable spreader of E-V13 in Italy than at the least the Goths.
    The words llyrian, Messapian, Thracian, do not...
  11. Regardless, his point stands, those branches are...

    Regardless, his point stands, those branches are significant, they are there. One of them only has an Albanian cousin. I don't think they could all have been sent there by later romans or germanics,...
  12. Obviously we need more data from every region,...

    Obviously we need more data from every region, but I am still not convinced by your argument. I don't see why only hallstatt clades would be spread by later groups and not any branches from their own...
  13. This is from your E-V13 page on Eupedia: ...

    This is from your E-V13 page on Eupedia:

    "There are at least three distinct sources of E-V13 in Italy.

    The first would be the Bronze Age Italic tribes from Central Europe, who in all logic...
  14. Just look at all those "Balkan IA" clusters,...

    Just look at all those "Balkan IA" clusters, majorly E-V13, R1b-Z2103, and J2b-L283:

    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/E-Iks7NWUAQeVJL?format=png&name=4096x4096...
  15. I don't understand the reasoning. Looking at the...

    I don't understand the reasoning. Looking at the TMRCAs they are middle bronze age to iron age tmrca.

    If they were spread by germanics, vandals, goths and late romans, we would have some later...
  16. Sure, but if we can say that E-V13 was in south...

    Sure, but if we can say that E-V13 was in south sardinia in the iron age, maybe we can speculate which tribes it might possibly be associated with there. The siculesi were in the south for example.
    ...
  17. Bruzmi made an interesting observation about...

    Bruzmi made an interesting observation about quite a few Sardinian samples of E-V13 in Sardinia:

    "What's interesting to me is that on yfull for some reason ~10/27 E-V13 samples from Italy are from...
  18. A map of some of these late bronze age migrations...

    A map of some of these late bronze age migrations from the Balkans/Danube to Troy:

    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/E9TanXwX0AAVnRt?format=jpg&name=4096x4096
  19. Thanks. So 4 samples there. Is Kapitan Andrevo...

    Thanks. So 4 samples there. Is Kapitan Andrevo related to Psenicevo culture?

    This is an interesting paper on some of the groups being discussed here:

    "Troy was known under the name of...
  20. Does anybody have a link to the IA leak of E-V13...

    Does anybody have a link to the IA leak of E-V13 in psenicevo? Or a screenshot?
  21. So one paper it was fully I2a, while in this new...

    So one paper it was fully I2a, while in this new one it is fully G2a? Sorry I have not kept up.
  22. I am far more skeptical about Brnjica being the...

    I am far more skeptical about Brnjica being the Dardanian culture given that the Dardanian Kingdom (~400s BC) of the balkans are first attested far later than when the Brnjica culture was around.
    ...
  23. It is really confusing. Priam is sometimes called...

    It is really confusing. Priam is sometimes called Dardanides (son of dardanus) but never Dardanoi, or Dardanion, or Dardanos man, etc, which is the specific tribe/house that Antenor, Aeneas, Acamas,...
  24. Hector is not referred to as a Dardanoi. But that...

    Hector is not referred to as a Dardanoi. But that Trojan and Dardanoi were two different things are more than clear enough in the Iliad given that they are listed separately and have different...
  25. "We have already in the 7th century BCE an...

    "We have already in the 7th century BCE an Etruscan vase with a depiction of Aeneas on it, so that's very early, and in the tales of Homer, Aeneas is only a minor figure, so I think that just a wish...
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