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    Also from the paper: ...

    Also from the paper:


    https://library.oapen.org/handle/20.500.12657/33895

    I found little about the Lapotince-Vlaštice group mentioned, but sounds interesting. Does anyone have more...
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    Many options and I don't really know, but here...

    Many options and I don't really know, but here are my opinions: Could be Tripolye-Cucuteni, could be steppe-related. In any case we have R1b and J2b together in Mokrin EBA, preceding the Iron Age...
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    But that's about the Danubian zone occupied by...

    But that's about the Danubian zone occupied by Belegis II-Gava rather. Eastern Pannonia and the Morava valley were both heavily influenced by Channelled Ware, rather colonised by these people, but...
  4. The funniest part of the paper was "unexpectedly"...

    The funniest part of the paper was "unexpectedly" if talking about the genetic impact of Kofun.


    As if people still can't believe that most major cultural shifts were accompanied by some sort of...
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    I know, I wrote about the elite tumuli in...

    I know, I wrote about the elite tumuli in Northern Romania from Gava-related groups, which seem to represent the elite and hierarchical culture they practised. Something which appears throughout...
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    Yes, it spread to Pannonians, but from the...

    Yes, it spread to Pannonians, but from the Thraco-Cimmerian horizon and Basarabi. That means at the time of the Roman Empire, there surely was E-V13 in Pannonians, Illyrians, Greeks, Celts etc. But...
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    You just talk semantics, not content. You don't...

    You just talk semantics, not content. You don't have the individual inscriptions for the samples and the archaeological studies prove that they were overwhelmingly from the area and related regions...
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    The only E1b1b couples and more samples in close...

    The only E1b1b couples and more samples in close proximity come from Danubian Lengyel-Sopot and Rhenish Michelsberger in the whole Neolithic of Europe. Nowhere else so far and especially no relevant...
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    E-L618 might have been very widespread along the...

    E-L618 might have been very widespread along the Rhine and the Danube thanks to Lengyel, secondarily the Michelsberger - and in Bohemia and Bavaria because of the Lengyel colonists from...
  10. You can read up on it here: ...

    You can read up on it here:
    https://www.eupedia.com/forum/threads/41736-Dynamic-changes-in-genomic-and-social-structures-in-third-millennium-BCE-central-Euro

    Unfortunately almost all the...
  11. They have pre-Slavic, including Germanic...

    They have pre-Slavic, including Germanic admixture, but its not nearly as high. I think its even possible that the post-migration period German settlement had more of a Germanic impact than the...
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    That's of course always possible, but we have no...

    That's of course always possible, but we have no proof for it and the main clades all branch around the same time and seem to have marched like described, with members from every major clan adding...
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    You are right that its probably a recent founder...

    You are right that its probably a recent founder effect, but its still remarkable that just across the border to the next cultural formations, the increase is so steep. Yet it might be anachronistic...
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    Slovenia, which was also Illyrian in burial...

    Slovenia, which was also Illyrian in burial custom, with the Unterkrainer group of Hallstatt, has one of the lowest E-V13 numbers in the region. If you say the Central Balkan, I might agree. But the...
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    Actually J-L283 is unlikely to have spread...

    Actually J-L283 is unlikely to have spread Illyrian at first, and could have participated in other people like Etruscans too, yes. But they mainly expanded, especially in the Balkans, with Illyrians,...
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    So far we have in the ancient DNA mainly E-Z5017...

    So far we have in the ancient DNA mainly E-Z5017 from Serbia. No E-Z5018 yet before the common era, isn't it right?

    I also think that the Central-Western European diversity is no issue, because...
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    Actually a lot of the E-Z5018 clades have even a...

    Actually a lot of the E-Z5018 clades have even a later, Iron Age Basarabi-Hallstatt distribution and TMRCA. And they have no earlier branching events and distribution in the Balkans than the other...
  18. E1b1b was never that strong in the Balkans it...

    E1b1b was never that strong in the Balkans it seems. They had founder effects along the Danube (Lengyel) and Rhine (Michelsberger), with a possible connection of the two through Jordanow/Jordansmühl...
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    it did reach Greece, also from the Western...

    it did reach Greece, also from the Western Carpathian route, so I guess there is almost no way E-V13 wasn't at least close to Albania, say in Kosovo and at least Macedonia, in the LBA.



    I...
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    Compare it with Germanics assimilating in some...

    The diversity heatmap is unable to distinguish between locations with more than 25% diversity compared to others area (blue shade). E-Y97307 is classified into two clades. Both contain Albanians. The...
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    Because it doesn't matter in this context,...

    Because it doesn't matter in this context, because they were all coming down with Channelled Ware/Belegis II-Gava or later from Psenichevo-Basarabi. If they became Illyrian later, like the...
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    At this point a lot of E-V13 subclades can't be...

    At this point a lot of E-V13 subclades can't be fully understood, so everything I write must be taken with a grain of salt. You have one unknown match, no information given, do you know his...
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    E-V13 might ultimately have come into Europe with...

    E-V13 might ultimately have come into Europe with Impresso-Cardial Ware -> Lengyel-Sopot -> Epi-Lengyel/Baden -> Carpathian Epi-Corded -> Southern Unetice -> Gava-Channelled Ware spread ->...
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    I don't know if you read it already, but there...

    I don't know if you read it already, but there was exchange between Lengyel-Sopot and the Michelsberger, especially via the Münchshöfen culture in Bavaria. Its Jordanow/Jordansmühl culture in Bohemia...
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    Better saving for a BigY or WGS, because the SNP...

    Better saving for a BigY or WGS, because the SNP packs can just confirm the more obvious, while leading up to a dead end for further research most of the time.
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