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    You should read more about the Koszider hoards,...

    You should read more about the Koszider hoards, because that's the context of influence on formation of Illyrians. Also:
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    You see, you are mixing stuff a lot,Illyrian...

    You see, you are mixing stuff a lot,Illyrian tumuli was a continuation from Early Bronze Age tumulis and are not strictly related to the Tumulus Culture/Hugelgraberkultur which appeared initially in...
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    Nope, E-V13 spread point was not Western Balkan...

    Nope, E-V13 spread point was not Western Balkan at all, just check the tree and it's quite clear that it's Southern Central Europe instead, the buffer zone between the Alps and Carpathian Mountains....
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    Not particularly hitting at E-V13 Z5018 though,...

    Not particularly hitting at E-V13 Z5018 though, it might be some non Z5017/Z5018. Why not some earlier offshots before Gava was created, heading south, not at the scale of latter Gava-Belegis II.
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    The Gava-Belegi II looks like a clear and...

    The Gava-Belegi II looks like a clear and consistent candidate for E-V13 spread to me. That's right. But i also think Vatin Culture/related had E-V13 as well. Let's wait for further aDNA.


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    But, FGC33621 diversity is far more in...

    But, FGC33621 diversity is far more in Central-Western Europe than in Balkans or Eastern Balkans. That contradicts Daco-Thracian. Don't get me wrong, i agree on most cases. But the mosaique is not...
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    I already explained before that the E-V13 Z5018...

    I already explained before that the E-V13 Z5018 will be explained not by Thracians but by other tribes which were already in Central Balkans prior to the transition of LBA/EIA, they probably formed...
  8. I see, makes sense.

    I see, makes sense.
  9. And where is that sample Slovenian_IA? I haven't...

    And where is that sample Slovenian_IA? I haven't seen any Slovenian_IA sample before?
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    Strictly speaking this thread is more about Late...

    Strictly speaking this thread is more about Late Bronze Age to Early Iron Age transition.

    So don't bring up Albanians or Slavs. There is enough threads about that topic.

    In several instances we...
  11. For me one good point extracted from the paper,...

    For me one good point extracted from the paper, and the most important one was the connection between E-V13 and cremation burials during Late Bronze Age and Early Iron Age transition.

    A good...
  12. Not really, they probably lacked WHG anyway.

    Not really, they probably lacked WHG anyway.
  13. Where i think the origin of E-V13 is.

    Where i think the origin of E-V13 is.
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    Basarabi Culture chariot pulled by water birds. ...

    Basarabi Culture chariot pulled by water birds.

    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DYWHUIpUMAAAvwD?format=jpg&name=medium

    Similar to Dubovac Zuto Brdo/Garla Mara Middle Bronze Age/Late Bronze Age...
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    Lol at Derite trying to gaslight us, everyone saw...

    Lol at Derite trying to gaslight us, everyone saw through that guy intentions through and through. :bored:
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    Isn't supposed in Ligurian coast it's because...

    Isn't supposed in Ligurian coast it's because Greek colonization?
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    Don't mix Albanians here, this is a very specific...

    Don't mix Albanians here, this is a very specific group which has nothing to do with mainstream Albanians. And are using Serbs as scape-goat to hide behind it and promote their agenda.
  18. ~15% up to 25% is inevitable. More than that it...

    ~15% up to 25% is inevitable. More than that it doesn't make sense. But, less than ~15% also doesn't make sense, since this admixture is having an effect on modern calculators which are not smart...
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    I opened the thread on good faith, so i don't...

    I opened the thread on good faith, so i don't have any intention to derail it. In fact most of what we supposed in this thread was indirectly confirmed by the new paper.

    I insist that perhaps...
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    Oh yeah, do you agree with him and his attempts...

    Oh yeah, do you agree with him and his attempts lumping all E-V13 and originating somewhere in modern Kosovo and were underclass/slaves?

    You strike me as very fishy in all of this. This thread was...
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    Not really, not true at all. I do not agree with...

    Not really, not true at all. I do not agree with Huban/Aspurg in many issues, you are bringing him just to cover up that guy which is extremely weird. But i agree on him on the case of Bruzmi. He is...
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    That's absolutely not true. That guy is a...

    That's absolutely not true. That guy is a J2b2-L283 carrier who is closely associated with Rrenjet project and perhaps the other one as well. So, please don't bring his propaganda in this thread. His...
  23. And there is no Classical Greek aDNA so far. One...

    And there is no Classical Greek aDNA so far. One Mycenean J2a who very likely was assimilated Minoan-like population and one Empuries J2a, again coming from Anatolia.

    And, i don't want to repeat...
  24. There is enough evidence from archeological point...

    There is enough evidence from archeological point of view that groups rich in E-V13 from Danubian basin penetrated Greece in Late Bronze Age.

    I guess the newer Gava/Channeled-Ware equates with...
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    Well, it's obvious this was a militaristic city,...

    Well, it's obvious this was a militaristic city, so mostly burials of soldiers were tested. Anyway this game of upper-class, lower-class has become boring.
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