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    Thanks, i am aware that the Armenoi sample is not...

    Thanks, i am aware that the Armenoi sample is not viewed as Mycenaean or Minoan. Here is what Lazaridis had written a day after the paper was published,...
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    Yeah, it appears i am a typical Peloponnesian,...

    Yeah, it appears i am a typical Peloponnesian, which means intermediary location between Thessaloniki and Southern Italians, the latter evidently clustering with the Mycenaeans and the Philistine...
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    Regarding the PCA bug, it was something...

    Regarding the PCA bug, it was something different. Jovialis will explain it better.

    I agree, it seems Philistines mixed with the locals rather quickly. As the "Ancient DNA sheds light on the...
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    Father from Messenia, mother from Corinthia. Even...

    Father from Messenia, mother from Corinthia. Even though my father's family resides in Gargalianoi (Messenia), it seems (based on my father's last name frequency) to hail from the same location where...
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    Here is also me included, thanks to Jovialis....

    Here is also me included, thanks to Jovialis.
    https://i.imgur.com/GwnCWzP.png
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    Poll: Indeed, in the case of I-Y18331 we also have that...

    Indeed, in the case of I-Y18331 we also have that single Chuvash sample and a number of Ashkenazim Jews. Although excluding the Chuvash sample, it is known that Ashkenazim Jews do autosomally cluster...
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    Poll: Yeah, i had a somewhat similar view, with the...

    Yeah, i had a somewhat similar view, with the only difference that i hypothesize I-CTS10228 to have entered the Balkans much earlier, with Celts such as the Volcae around 280 BCE, some of which...
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    Poll: I am not even close of having formed an opinion...

    I am not even close of having formed an opinion on the origin of I2a-Din in the Balkans, but has the Celtic possibility been addressed? I don't know, i am just asking. I personally voted for "Other"...
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    I consider central Balkans the regions of Serbia,...

    I consider central Balkans the regions of Serbia, Kosovo, and parts of North Macedonia. In any case, that is of little importance, because it appears R-M269 (likely R-Z2103) was present (possible as...
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    He did mention it above my last comment, but that...

    He did mention it above my last comment, but that is not central Balkans. The Vuńćedol culture is a north-western EBA Balkan culture, which seems to have had ties with Greece, such as trading...
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    As a sidenote, i thought Maciamo was just an...

    As a sidenote, i thought Maciamo was just an administrator in the forum, i didn't know he contributed to the articles of Eupedia as well. Now i see he founded Eupedia. In any case, i didn't see...
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    I am understanding you perfectly and i disagree...

    I am understanding you perfectly and i disagree with the parallelization of Y-DNA and atDNA (autosomal), even if it is just a supposition.

    Furthermore, Maciamo wrote that R1b-ht35 (L23, L51, L11,...
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    My friend, you are losing the ball here. We are...

    My friend, you are losing the ball here. We are not discussing ancient autosomal affinity, but modern, thus it is more rational to be sharing a closer autosomal affinity with my fellow modern...
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    It's not wrong to be the closest to Greek...

    It's not wrong to be the closest to Greek Thessalian or Greek Macedonian, it's just not rational, since all of my relatives come from Peloponnesus, and it is more probable to be sharing a closer...
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    What does Y-DNA have to do with autosomal data...

    What does Y-DNA have to do with autosomal data which both of the above comments pertained to? By the way, having a J2a haplogroup doesn't mean you are Peloponnesian, even though the one male...
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    I agree with you. Samples certainly exist and...

    I agree with you. Samples certainly exist and surely people such as Eurogenes (David Wesolowski) can easily come in contact with one of the scientists who participated in that paper. For example,...
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    Yeah, same for me on that respect by running on...

    Yeah, same for me on that respect by running on Eurogenes K13 Oracle. Fully Peloponnesian (Messenia and Corinthia) and my closest group is Greek Thessalian, since no Greek Peloponnesian is included...
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    No, strong "steppe" admixture regionally pertains...

    No, strong "steppe" admixture regionally pertains to the actual Pontic-Caspian steppe, which is where the "steppe" IE branch of languages spread from, including Graeco-Phrygian. Whether they passed...
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    Yeah, i hypothesize Dorians having more steppe...

    Yeah, i hypothesize Dorians having more steppe ancestry as well, due to the fact that they descended from the proto-Greek region of north-western Greece, and also because they spoke the most...
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    Yeah, but Phocaea itself was founded by Phocian...

    Yeah, but Phocaea itself was founded by Phocian Greeks from central Greece, under the leadership of Athenians. Identity wise they can prove to be a mess, bearing in mind that the original Phocians...
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    It is difficult to classify the pre-Greek...

    It is difficult to classify the pre-Greek language of Crete, namely because there were a number of different languages that were being spoken on the island at the same time during the Bronze Age, and...
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    The tumuli of Epirus are an LBA Mycenaean...

    The tumuli of Epirus are an LBA Mycenaean influence and therefore out of context in relation to proto-Greeks.
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    This still comes down to hypotheses mate. I...

    This still comes down to hypotheses mate. I personally don't relate the proto-Greek group with tumuli burials, mostly because the conservative subgroup of Dorians were cremating their dead, and...
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    Per Georgiev the proto-Greek language is placed...

    Per Georgiev the proto-Greek language is placed in this region, https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/f/fd/Proto_Greek_Area_reconstruction.png. For one this region represents a very high...
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    The area of the three fingers, namely the...

    The area of the three fingers, namely the peninsula of Chalkidiki was not originally part of Macedon, but of Ionian colonists from the island of Euboea. The map of this article is wrong in terms of...
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