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Goths were formed in central-eastern Europe from Wielbark culture and before slavic language expansion in Europe. Before in this thread i've seen a quote where this subclade in Northern Italy...

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I have no information about western branch maybe because it's very rare. But it's interesting that this branch can be found in WE. In Russian sources sometimes it associated with Goths, sometimes...

First map was made on site Molgen.ru and it shows western branch of R1a y2902 in Europe. Idk the creator of this map

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And from an article about R1b "R1b-S21 became the dominant haplogroup among the West Germanic tribes, but remained in the minority against I1 and R1a in East Germanic and Nordic tribes, including...

Goths were originally from Poland and it's interesting how this subclade went to Western Europe. I have one volga german match from my branch (R-CTS8816; my ancestors from the same area as his)

I'm belonging to R1a y2902(which maybe correlates with Goths by Eupedia) and my ancestors were from Central Germany. I'm from the same point because Goths were from Wielbark- Chernyakhov cultures and...

Later I'll send a map of gothic migration through Europe and my DNA cousins have surnames like Hess, Krause, Glass, Kube and I also have slavic DNA cousins

maybe slavs, maybe goths or both

from an article about R1b "R1b-S21 became the dominant haplogroup among the West Germanic tribes, but remained in the minority against I1 and R1a in East Germanic and Nordic tribes, including those...

I don't know my deep subclade, but goths were originally from Poland and it's interesting how this subclade went to Western Europe. I have one volga german match from my branch (R-CTS8816; my...

Not only slavs brought this HG in W Europe. Corded Ware culture was in Germany, Netherlands and Scandinavia(including Jutland culture of Corded Ware)

Wielbark- Chernyakhov*

I'm belonging to R1a y2902(which maybe correlates with Goths by Eupedia) and my ancestors were from Central Germany. I'm from the same point because Goths were from Wehlbark- Chernyahov cultures and...