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    Indeed, I too use Polako's calculators. Despite...

    Indeed, I too use Polako's calculators. Despite the fact I disagree on key interpretations. But I always make sure to look at it relative to the academic results. As well as the ancient samples...
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    True, Here are the southern Italian-like...

    True,

    Here are the southern Italian-like samples highlighted according to region. I used the results that Kingjohn provided, from Global25 FST. Here you can see that samples from Umbria, and...
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    I think there must some kind of odd projection...

    I think there must some kind of odd projection bias in the Global25 PCAs. They look nothing like the academic ones from the study.
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    https://i.imgur.com/aOrLnfC.png Please correct...

    https://i.imgur.com/aOrLnfC.png

    Please correct me if I am wrong about any of the samples.
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    https://i.imgur.com/PaLWI64.png @Salento My...

    https://i.imgur.com/PaLWI64.png

    @Salento

    My speculation was correct, 836, 57,107, and 113 are Apulian-like samples, which are in the SITALY3-circled area. Though I should have shifted it south...
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    One thing is certain, R850 of Latin Tribe Ardea...

    One thing is certain, R850 of Latin Tribe Ardea proves that Southern Italian-like people existed in Italy since at least the Iron age/Republican period. They were influential in the re-settlement of...
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    Stalinistic-self-denial of the truth; their...

    Stalinistic-self-denial of the truth; their willful ignorance is a disgrace. Funny, when an outlier is more "northern", like the Armenoi_Crete sample, "It must be an elite", but not when the outlier...
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    You won't have to worry about low-level t-rolling...

    You won't have to worry about low-level t-rolling on this site. Thanks to the superior diligence of the moderation staff.
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    A medieval re-peopling of the Central-to-South...

    A medieval re-peopling of the Central-to-South with ancestry from C7 (Iron Age Romans) and C6 (Mycenaean/Greek-like) makes absolute sense to me:

    https://i.imgur.com/OxVpmQ0.png
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    I think you may be confusing 45, for 850. He is...

    I think you may be confusing 45, for 850. He is Mycenaean-like (C6 Mediterranean). Also, C5 is eastern Mediterranean, C4 is Near Eastern.

    https://i.imgur.com/XwOyW8B.png
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    https://i.imgur.com/9F2cMqC.jpg I think they...

    https://i.imgur.com/9F2cMqC.jpg

    I think they are ancient clusters from the study, organized by broard ethnic grouping.
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    https://i.imgur.com/DxCpI2Q.pnghttps://i.imgur.com...

    https://i.imgur.com/DxCpI2Q.pnghttps://i.imgur.com/PaLWI64.pnghttps://i.imgur.com/t5gaaMf.jpg


    The near eastern tail had been severed after the end of the Imperial era. However, other than some...
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    https://i.imgur.com/t5gaaMf.jpg But first,...

    https://i.imgur.com/t5gaaMf.jpg

    But first, something I won’t update: it seems clear that Imperial Romans were genetically distinct and quite cosmopolitan in comparison to their Republican...
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    If you could do the following, I'd appreciate it....

    If you could do the following, I'd appreciate it.
    R850, R851, R475, R437
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    Greek admixture is absolutely plausible for this...

    Greek admixture is absolutely plausible for this sample. It's closest affinity to other samples, is to Myceneans, and other Greeks. Especially given the history you have noted.

    I think samples the...
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    I find it intriguing that there were already...

    I find it intriguing that there were already south Italian-like people in the Republican era, among the other Latins and Etruscans. Instead of being Greek, perhaps he was just closer to the Neolithic...
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    Here's mine :)

    Here's mine :)
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    https://i.imgur.com/bFmSBBX.png I now get Latin...

    https://i.imgur.com/bFmSBBX.png
    I now get Latin Tribe Ardea as a new sample, and it is right before Anatolian Copper age. I think these are the two most important samples I get, as I speculate it I...
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    Imo, I think one of the bigger developments in...

    Imo, I think one of the bigger developments in this paper, is iran-like ancestry in the Neolithic.

    Also the resurgence of WHG in Italy, due to mixing with farmers that retained more WHG.

    I...
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    Good questions. Considering my closer relation to...

    Good questions. Considering my closer relation to the copper anatolian, the presence of Iran-like ancestry in neolthic Italy, a survey of the southern Italian bronze-age is key.

    Also, I am curious...
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    Also they are in-between the Neolithic era...

    Also they are in-between the Neolithic era Italians from this area, and Imperial Roman-to-modern era Central/South Italians

    https://i.imgur.com/BQ5EoGy.png
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    Don't double post please:

    https://www.eupedia.com/forum/threads/39501-Moots-Ancient-Rome-Paper/page3
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    @Tomenable Take a look at figure C in the...

    @Tomenable

    Take a look at figure C in the chart provided by Angela, these are the rustic native Italian peasantry that re-populated this part of Italy. They look overwhelmingly Southern...
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    https://i.imgur.com/hoJGz1l.png

    https://i.imgur.com/hoJGz1l.png
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    Interesting, so the samples that were South of...

    Interesting, so the samples that were South of Southern Italians, which disappeared after the fall of the Roman Empire, only came from one grave site.

    I don't know how they can use that to make...
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