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    Even if the Northern model is correct, it doesn't...

    Even if the Northern model is correct, it doesn't mean they were Nordic. It also doesn't mean they had a ton of steppe ancestry, by the time they got there.

    I think the Northern model is possible,...
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    Why is that so?

    Why is that so?
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    The reality is, the Ancient Greeks were Southern...

    The reality is, the Ancient Greeks were Southern Europeans, and the later Greeks are still Southern Europeans, augmented by some degree Slavic admixture. Some a bit more than others.
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    No, the Nazis believed the Ancient Greeks were...

    No, the Nazis believed the Ancient Greeks were Nordic, and were racially degenerated by Slavs and Avars according to their adoption of the Fallmerayer Theory. Which was taught to Nazi officers in the...
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    Indeed, @Julia Here are some better ways to...

    Indeed,

    @Julia

    Here are some better ways to discern ancient ancestry, and for free:

    https://www.eupedia.com/forum/threads/39706-Ancient-Rome-Test-(Various-Calculators)
    ...
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    Purely political, and strategic. Just like their...

    Purely political, and strategic. Just like their alliance with Japanese, the "honorary Aryans". Nazis believed the ancient Greeks were Nordics.
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    Thanks for pointing out those figures. Perhaps...

    Thanks for pointing out those figures. Perhaps some people should consider reading papers on the topic, instead of giving personal opinions based on assumptions.
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    Yes, that was the point I was making. I think to...

    Yes, that was the point I was making. I think to deny some Slavic ancestry in some Greeks, especially in the north is wrong. But to broadly say Modern Greeks are basically a two-way mix of Slavs and...
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    You think Greeks are heavily Slavic, with recent...

    You think Greeks are heavily Slavic, with recent Cypriot, and not even have 1% of their ancient ancestors? Because frankly, that idea is retarded.
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    Tuscan is probably the centrum for "Italian", in...

    Tuscan is probably the centrum for "Italian", in 23andme.
  11. Yikes, I hope mine doesn't take so long. We'll...

    Yikes, I hope mine doesn't take so long. We'll see in time.
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    The "Levantine" canard that...

    The "Levantine" canard that anthrogenica/eurogenes that is pushing falls flat against reality. The Sarno et al. 2017 paper that they use even verifies what I have been saying,

    "we identify traces...
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    Sicily, Calabria, Campania, are high up there,...

    Sicily, Calabria, Campania, are high up there, that's interesting.
  14. I actually received a message 6 days ago, stating...

    I actually received a message 6 days ago, stating my sample has entered the quality control phase, and if it passes, it will be 6 weeks till my results are ready.
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    People should start by not reading Eurogenes.

    People should start by not reading Eurogenes.
  16. I am out of upvotes unfortunately, but great work!

    I am out of upvotes unfortunately, but great work!
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    Now we can get back on topic.

    Now we can get back on topic.
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    The only emotional appeals I see are people that...

    The only emotional appeals I see are people that cry about subjects that make them uncomfortable, begging to change the topic.

    Just so people here don't think I am picking on the poor little...
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    Pardon me, but there are no emotional appeals...

    Pardon me, but there are no emotional appeals when pointing out that there are bias analysis from people like Eurogenes. I find the last part of your post condescending.

    We have actually been over...
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    No, I was addressing that point, this study...

    No, I was addressing that point, this study (Lazaridis et al. 2017) determines this:

    Modern Greeks resemble the Mycenaeans, but with some additional dilution of the Early Neolithic ancestry. Our...
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    Davidski wrote in (2017) "I can't wait for more...

    Davidski wrote in (2017) "I can't wait for more ancient DNA from Greece and Italy, especially from the Bronze and Iron Ages. Based on my experiences with many Greeks and Italians, it's sure to be a...
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    See what I mean now?

    See what I mean now?
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    Why do the academic studies support continuity,...

    Why do the academic studies support continuity, with only some dilution than? There is no doubt some admixture from Slavs. But to suggest that the authors are wrong, many of whom are not Greek (so...
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    We are not off track. We are discussing the...

    We are not off track.

    We are discussing the eurogenes opinion of the formation of modern Greeks, that matches the Fallmerayer theory. If it makes people uncomfortable and triggered that Nazis...
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    It is relevant when a man who dislikes Greeks...

    It is relevant when a man who dislikes Greeks uses sophistry to "prove it".
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