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  1. Thread: "WOKE" America

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    Yes exactly that is also the case for Iraqi...

    Yes exactly that is also the case for Iraqi Americans who are nearly at the bottom at list, most of them came as war refugees in last few decades.
  2. Venosa samples are Early Medieval samples that...

    Venosa samples are Early Medieval samples that pre-date the Moorish era. They are not moderns.
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    OK it's my fault, never mind I was not really...

    OK it's my fault, never mind I was not really talking about an Italian, I was talking about one Jewish person who does not like the idea of European ancestry in Ashakanazi Jews being mostly West Med....
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    You are probably referring to me. I said that...

    You are probably referring to me.

    I said that if Southern Italians were Etruscan-like (as the person assumed not MY idea) it would increase the probability of Jews having their European ancestry...
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    I have said it years ago that they could be 'half...

    I have said it years ago that they could be 'half n half' Western European in 2019 I suppose. But I was not very informed about it being of Northern Italian.

    The model seems more than...
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    He said Greek cities not all cities. Do you...

    He said Greek cities not all cities. Do you believe majority of people in Southern Italy were in Greek cities? Do you think majority of people of Apulia lived in 3 Greek cities?
    It does not upset me...
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    Agamemnon has moved from South Italians were...

    Agamemnon has moved from South Italians were nearly completely replaced by Greeks and also Phoenicians in Sicily inland and in the coast to the "overcrowded cities of Magna Greacia carried most of...
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    I have said before that some East Med Greek...

    I have said before that some East Med Greek people probably did exist in Magna Graecia just like some Italic outliers too. I was wrong about dismissing him immediately as a Greek but the probability...
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    I don't have hard time admitting I am wrong. If...

    I don't have hard time admitting I am wrong. If the Hellenistic Era Italian-Greeks are mostly Cretan-like or close to it I will openly admit I was wrong. (if I am around here because maybe we wont...
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    R850 is from 500-800BC, not a Greek. ...

    R850 is from 500-800BC, not a Greek.

    300BC-400BC and 700-800BC Campanian Greek samples cluster with Aegean BA.

    The other one R437 has an Italic Y-DNA, he could be a mixed with Greek. Again I...
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    All of the Greeks left Southern Italy for Rome...

    All of the Greeks left Southern Italy for Rome (1.5M people there). Just kidding, I am sure they will.
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    Unless he totally lacks Italic ancestry like...

    Unless he totally lacks Italic ancestry like Cretans do I suppose he could be a Greek.

    Distance to:
    C6_Iron_Age_Mediterranean:R437_(Latin_Prenestini_Tribe)_Palestrina_Selicata


    14.10277987...
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    I would not be sure about Latini_o. C6 could...

    I would not be sure about Latini_o. C6 could really be a Greek.


    Distance to:
    NE_Iberia_Hel_(Empúries2):I8208:Olalde_2019


    6.19184141
    Mycenaean:I9010:Lazaridis_2017
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    Greeks in Rome cool. Distance to:...

    Greeks in Rome cool.



    Distance to:
    NE_Iberia_Hel_(Empúries2):I8208:Olalde_2019


    6.19184141
    Mycenaean:I9010:Lazaridis_2017
  15. In the OP half of samples seem Tuscan-like...

    In the OP half of samples seem Tuscan-like (probably from the northern Serbia) and half of the samples seem BLG_IA like considering I don't have the coordinates of those samples I thought using...
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    That explain everything. Because Rome had...

    That explain everything. Because Rome had hundreds of thousands Italic people I was wondering why only one or two of Imperial samples are showing as fully Italic-like, surely there should have been...
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    Only one of them appears to be Italian-Greek-like...

    Only one of them appears to be Italian-Greek-like from Iron Age (and an other one seem shifted towards northern Africa).
    I thought Southern Italian-like Romans were in Late Antiquity only ? The...
  18. I suggested using Northern Italians from 2018 to...

    I suggested using Northern Italians from 2018 to estimate the native admixture of Croats, before the genetic data:
  19. I was using Tuscans as a source for native...

    I was using Tuscans as a source for native Balkanites. Some late antiquity Roman samples overlap with Tuscans.
  20. This IMO is more accurate. Target: Albanian...

    This IMO is more accurate.

    Target: Albanian
    Distance: 1.8677% / 0.01867691



    41.0
    BGR_IA
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    The calculator fails to recognize significant...

    The calculator fails to recognize significant Classical Greek ancestry in Imperial Romans (0-1.4%). The Empuries does not even show up.
    This makes sense historically and demographically. Those...
  22. BUL_IA is not an outlier (I have told others that...

    BUL_IA is not an outlier (I have told others that before the Danubian paper), in fact several Serbian late antiquity samples plot south of it.
    Southern Thracians were probably more southern shifted...
  23. Just saw those on Anthrogenica: "And yet the...

    Just saw those on Anthrogenica:

    "And yet the latter, if brought under, might be kept under; while the Sicilians, even if conquered, are too far off and too numerous to be ruled without...
  24. "What we see in Etruscans" is a vague saying, as...

    "What we see in Etruscans" is a vague saying, as northern Italians are very close to Etruscans. Nobody is doubting they will not differ much.
    Using Latins and Etruscans got better results than just...
  25. I have a feeling that once we "discover" Northern...

    I have a feeling that once we "discover" Northern Italy completely the Germanic and the Imperial Roman percentages in Tuscany will decrease and fall accordingly to Y-DNA.

    Probably it has to do...
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