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    Yes, they're all from a WGS study. Nothing too...

    Yes, they're all from a WGS study. Nothing too unexpected. The samples themselves appear to be a mixed bag (i.e. Balkan Turks, Anatolian Turks, Armenians, and the very first J-L70 Pontian). Regarding...
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    Within the Empire. Many of the regions where we...

    Within the Empire. Many of the regions where we notice greater concentrations, I've noticed these units wound up.

    Correct me if I'm wrong, but to my understanding, each Auxiliary unit had several...
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    Azzurro says if you need to contact him, you can...

    Azzurro says if you need to contact him, you can do so on Anthrogenica.
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    J-L70's TMRCA is 1800 BCE, which is in the Middle...

    J-L70's TMRCA is 1800 BCE, which is in the Middle Bronze Age. The main diversification of branches was between 1400 BCE and 1100 BCE. I don't understand the connection you're making.
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    I don't think any of these regions are not...

    I don't think any of these regions are not accounted for. I would imagine that the Syrian Auxiliaries were the primary force. Anatolian Auxiliaries could easily have spread some too. Add on the...
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    J-L70 is MBA, not EBA.

    J-L70 is MBA, not EBA.
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    I don't understand the relevance of autosomal DNA...

    I don't understand the relevance of autosomal DNA here. This is why I find your argument flawed:

    There are a handful of Greek J-L70 lines identified currently. For this, let's assume they all...
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    Thanks for this! This is far better data for...

    Thanks for this! This is far better data for Albanians than that available from FTDNA - Albanians appear to have 1.1% J-L70. I imagine some of it could be Greek (?) and some is likely via Syrian...
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    Ah okay! This branch is very far from J-L70. The...

    Ah okay! This branch is very far from J-L70. The most recent shared marker between the two is J-PF5087 - with a TMRCA of 15 700 ybp.



    For sure, there are branches of J2 that have an old...
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    There were only 3 samples from Antonio et al that...

    There were only 3 samples from Antonio et al that were J-L70 - 2 from the Middle Ages, and one from Late Antiquity. This admittedly doesn't tell us much.
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    That branch, J-FGC32147, wouldn't surprise me if...

    That branch, J-FGC32147, wouldn't surprise me if it were early Arab. As mentioned in my first post, it's presence in Sicily could easily be attributable to the Aghlabid Dynasty. Perhaps this Roman is...
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    And to add, J-Z387's TMRCA fits.

    And to add, J-Z387's TMRCA fits.
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    It wouldn't be too surprising for *J-Z387 to have...

    It wouldn't be too surprising for *J-Z387 to have been associated with Proto-Semitic, Proto-West Semitic, or Proto-Central Semitic.
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    I describe J-L70 as young, since given it's wide...

    I describe J-L70 as young, since given it's wide distribution, a TMRCA of 3800 ybp is indeed young for such a distribution to be achieved.
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    Yes! Given where he falls and those surrounding,...

    Yes! Given where he falls and those surrounding, I wouldn't be too surprised if his line made it's way north into Anatolia, and was then picked up from there, making it's way to Rome.
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    All samples, whether it's those from...

    All samples, whether it's those from FamilyTreeDNA, or from a scientific paper, will face sampling risk. It's inherent. Since there is a limited amount of data for J-L70 in terms of frequencies (most...
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    Indeed, J-L70 is found throughout Western...

    Indeed, J-L70 is found throughout Western Eurasia. One of the noticeable things we see is that there are Near Easterners, Mediterranean, and non-Mediterranean Europeans at virtually all levels of the...
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    Thanks - I have seen this paper before! The...

    Thanks - I have seen this paper before!

    The issue that arises, is that most of these studies test for DYS445=6, which is a characteristic of all of J-Z387. So when a study does present data, it is...
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    J-L70 - a much needed update

    Hi all!

    I am a new member to this forum - but I am active on others. I feel that this forum would benefit from an up-to-date take on J-L70. For those interested, I do have threads dedicated to...
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