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    It is very funny that you call this "real genetic...

    It is very funny that you call this "real genetic and anthropology data", as it is as far away from real science as it gets. You use some ancient, unnamed Russian source which probably meant well at...
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    Very good IMO. I have one comment - the Swedish N...

    Very good IMO. I have one comment - the Swedish N is too old to have been caused by population exchange with Finland during the last 800 years, and in any case it is different from Finnish N (as has...
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    To begin with, there is no historically attested...

    To begin with, there is no historically attested ruling elite in Finland until around 1100-1300 AD, when Finland was incorporated into what would become Sweden. The three Finnish tribes (Finns,...
  4. I think it is very likely that it is so. I have...

    I think it is very likely that it is so. I have always argued for that there are components in Central Eurasia that can neither be classified as caucasoid nor mongoloid, in fact I think there is an...
  5. That's the most plausible, but I dont think its...

    That's the most plausible, but I dont think its possible to ever know for certain. The Turkic family branched into todays languages quite recently and some groups, such as Uyghurs, are partly...
  6. I have not read the whole debate between Idun,...

    I have not read the whole debate between Idun, Nobody1 and others, but I must say that at the beginning of the thread it feels like there were strong insinuations that Uralics are a mongoloid people,...
  7. The Siberian admixture is indeed the highest...

    The Siberian admixture is indeed the highest among Norweigan Saami, and in general it peaks along the arctic coast in Europe. Most likely it is a very old component in Europe which has diffused into...
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    Until the eastward Slavic expansion, Northeastern...

    Until the eastward Slavic expansion, Northeastern Europe was dominated by Uralic speakers, I have never seen any source claim anything else. What other group would have been there?

    The Finns were...
  9. Finns indeed have about 6% Siberian genes, which...

    Finns indeed have about 6% Siberian genes, which is very remarkable. The admixture date is quite recent and the most likely candidate for bringing this component is of course the Saami-speaking...
  10. Finns are not "completly isolated", that is...

    Finns are not "completly isolated", that is absurd. Finns are typical North Europeans, although heavily genetically drifted. Finns also have 6% Siberian genes. If Finns are plotted in a principal...
  11. It is mainly outlined in this book:...

    It is mainly outlined in this book:
    http://www.amazon.com/The-Uralic-Language-Family-Publications/dp/0631231706



    Probably, but a mongoloid origin of Uralics is usually not a controversial...
  12. Of course, if we think of genes as having...

    Of course, if we think of genes as having West-East clines, then Uralic people have more East Asian admixture, as they live further East than other Europeans. For example, Finns have 6% Siberian...
  13. I must say I agree here. The Uralic Urheimat is...

    I must say I agree here. The Uralic Urheimat is adjacent to the Indo-European one, and the closest relative to the Uralic family is still the Indo-European. That is not to say that they are related...
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    As usual with cluster analyses, I wonder what...

    As usual with cluster analyses, I wonder what kind of component this is. Is it a hybrid of European and Subsaharan African, or something which exists solely around the horn of Africa? Does the...
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    It is hard to understand because it requires us...

    It is hard to understand because it requires us to dismiss the most widely held theories on Indo-European linguistics. As far as I've seen there are no evidence that the R1B expansion to Western...
  16. Your FTDNA source above clearly states that...

    Your FTDNA source above clearly states that connecting Y-DNA to language families is controversial. (Also, you don't consider mtDNA in you post above, so it is wrong to say that "almost all blood" is...
  17. Isn't the Bell Beaker culture a more likely...

    Isn't the Bell Beaker culture a more likely candidate for the spread of R1B? Bell Beaker people were clearly very mobile, especially at sea, and more advanced than the previous cultures. Celts seem...
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    It is a fairly established theory that the...

    It is a fairly established theory that the Siberian admixture in Finland came from proto-Saamis, who had gotten it from some other Siberian people. The admixture date is also quite recent, 1000 BC...
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    There are probably several waves behind N in...

    There are probably several waves behind N in Europe.

    1. An ancient migration wave of unknown people before 6000 BC, perhaps connected to the Comb-Ceramic culture. This is the reason N is so...
  20. So what was your long argument for? Do you want...

    So what was your long argument for? Do you want to speculate that because of N, pre-proto-Uralics were Mongoloid? Personally, I think that is OK speculation, as long as you call it speculation. I...
  21. I have made no claim about N being this or that....

    I have made no claim about N being this or that. It is just one gene, it says nothing about race. In the case of Latvians and Finns, we have N-rich causaoid peoples. In the case of Nganassan, N-rich...
  22. Why wouldn't one believe scientific consensus on...

    Why wouldn't one believe scientific consensus on something as non-controversial as Uralic Linguistics?



    The original language spoken in Lapland is usually considered to be the substrate for...
  23. And it would be a huge coincidence if it could...

    And it would be a huge coincidence if it could somehow be proven that those buried spoke Uralic languages (which it cant, of course). Again, archaeological cultures say nothing about languages...
  24. As I said before, the Proto-Uralic language can...

    As I said before, the Proto-Uralic language can only be reconstructed to the time of the Urheimat, 4000 BC, so any theories on where the Proto-Uralics came before that are just speculation. Could be...
  25. The comb-ceramic culture is today considered to...

    The comb-ceramic culture is today considered to have arrived in Europe before Uralic languages. We dont know what language or genes the bearers of the culture had, but it would be a huge coincidence...
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