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    Also, Northern Greeks (Thessaly, Macedonia and...

    Also, Northern Greeks (Thessaly, Macedonia and Thrace) as well as the Empuries sample almost have no markers reminiscent to the Iran sample of Ganj Dareh. While the remaining Greeks resemble...
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    I agree completely. The pre-Greeks dominated in...

    I agree completely. The pre-Greeks dominated in the Southern Balkans and the proto-Greek speakers mixed with them very early on. But given the fact that they formed in Thessaly/Epirus it would seem...
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    It seems possible that Ionian Greeks may have...

    It seems possible that Ionian Greeks may have been more EEF than mainland Greeks in the first place. I am not saying this purely on speculation. In the Mycenaean study there is evidence that Western...
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    Wasn't Empuries settled by Greeks from Asia Minor...

    Wasn't Empuries settled by Greeks from Asia Minor (Ionia)? Anyway, very hard to speculate on the origin of the specimen in the first place. Just a few samples of Hellenistic or Classical Greeks will...
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    Whatever the DNA of people who were walking...

    Whatever the DNA of people who were walking around in classical Macedonia, it would not deviate much compared to other Greeks. Simply because they were an Ancient Balkanian people living in the South...
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    Well, it became Macedonia in due time. I wouldn't...

    Well, it became Macedonia in due time. I wouldn't say anyone is appropriating the name. Especially the Greek region became Macedonia as early as under the reign of Philip. But the name stuck in the...
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    Greeks used and emphasized the term Macedonia to...

    Greeks used and emphasized the term Macedonia to safeguard their Hellenic influence in the region. The Bulgarization of the area was the only serious threat from Greece's perspective at the time. In...
  8. Even if that were true. How is it exactly that...

    Even if that were true. How is it exactly that you can distinguish Paeonian DNA 4th century B.C. from Ancient Greek DNA 4th century B.C.? If you exclude medieval migrations, the South Balkans would...
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    Analyzing the evolution of DNA of a metropolitan...

    Analyzing the evolution of DNA of a metropolitan city will surely show more turbulent results than that of the whole peninsula. The genetic mainframe of a people as a whole remains more intact due to...
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    If the rural people took back the cities, then...

    If the rural people took back the cities, then how can this be considered a genetic ethnogenesis? The genes were there, in the rural area. Perhaps Rome had many immigrants, but this in itself would...
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    What happened to J1 after imperial Rome? Did they...

    What happened to J1 after imperial Rome? Did they coincidentally took samples from some immigrant cemetery? Or perhaps some Phoenicians which they happen to have selected. At the very least, one...
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    In the early Iron age Romans were genetically...

    In the early Iron age Romans were genetically mostly Northern Italians and slowly became more East Med because populations of the Southern part settled there (probably lots of Greeks and...
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    When talking about Ancient Macedonia, we talk...

    When talking about Ancient Macedonia, we talk about the land inhabited by the original tribe which inhabited a small piece of land in Northern Greece near the Aegean. We are not talking about their...
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    There are countless people on online dating...

    There are countless people on online dating platforms. Even if you meet someone outside a dating platform. Chances are that this person has in fact tried these platforms at some point of his/her...
  15. Sure, one can admire him for that too. But that...

    Sure, one can admire him for that too. But that is quite one dimensional. His timeless historical significance for humanity is far greater than someone who prevailed in battle against all odds.
  16. Sure, as a general and conqueror he is admired...

    Sure, as a general and conqueror he is admired unlike no other. But this is only an aspect for someone with the stature like Alexander. There have been so many, too many, great generals in history....
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    But in the case of the Macedonians the rabbit...

    But in the case of the Macedonians the rabbit whole goes far deeper. All the material evidence emphasizes their Greekness. They have Greek personal names. Their lands and the areas from which they...
  18. He is considered a hero because of his legacy....

    He is considered a hero because of his legacy. And by that I mean to say that he spread Hellenism throughout the world. A form of standardized Greek language (Koine) became lingua franca and Hellenic...
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    About the hypothesis that E-V13 in Greece arrived...

    About the hypothesis that E-V13 in Greece arrived in Greece approx. 3000 years ago. Isn't E-V13 prevalent in Cypriots as well? The Achaean Greeks there settled mostly between 1400 BC to 1200 BC. So...
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    Thanks for your kind words. Much appreciated. ...

    Thanks for your kind words. Much appreciated.

    As for E-V13. It is well spread in all Greek speaking populations and in all regions. So it's old. And there is no known large migration from Italy...
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    Critical analysis is always accepted. We can...

    Critical analysis is always accepted.

    We can answer some of your questions with further evidence, not related to this paper about Mycenaeans. For starters, we know the areas which the Greeks have...
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    So that is where you want to go to. Amazing. You...

    So that is where you want to go to. Amazing. You made such a fantastic point. I do not know what to say about that. I am struck.

    What can I say? Perhaps they did not speak English? So they didn't...
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    The memory of Alexander had survived within the...

    The memory of Alexander had survived within the Greek literary tradition indeed. In fact, if it wasn't for the Greek literary tradition, it is quite likely that we would not have known much of...
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    Yes, I know what these two words mean. I take it...

    Yes, I know what these two words mean. I take it you are not an expert in the Ancient Greek language. The bottom line is that a philhellene in Ancient Greek could be someone of Greek or non-Greek...
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    This is speculation absent evidence. Also not...

    This is speculation absent evidence.
    Also not quite realistic that the Ancient Macedonians, the people who conquered the known world were ashamed of their origins. And they left no sign of their...
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