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    @angela said-"People have believed more...

    @angela said-"People have believed more nonsensical things, after all"

    Yeah, for example W.Haak when he said (2.015) "Massive migration from the steppe is a source for Indo-European languages in...
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    Well, Spaniards in general and Gaska in...

    Well, Spaniards in general and Gaska in particular, have never liked to be told by others what to do or what to think, we are intelligent enough to draw our own conclusions without having to admit...
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    The problem is that the Kurganists do not have...

    The problem is that the Kurganists do not have convincing arguments, that is, they are not able to find R1b-L51/L151/P312 in any culture of the steppes. Scholars have been searching for ten years and...
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    @Angela said-I've let this run on, but my...

    @Angela said-I've let this run on, but my patience comes to an end when discussions go to these looney lengths and libel is being implied.


    If you don't agree with the Harvardians, you are...
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    @Angela Who said that renowned laboratories...

    @Angela

    Who said that renowned laboratories are hiding evidence? What we are saying is that their interpretations of the available data are WRONG. Everyone knows that to model ancient samples and...
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    @Angela said-It's also irrelevant to that...

    @Angela said-It's also irrelevant to that question whether some admixed groups of locals mixed with steppe arrivals continued to speak the local language. Things were in flux for hundreds of years no...
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    @Angela said-“Honestly, I don't get the big deal...

    @Angela said-“Honestly, I don't get the big deal here. If the question is whether the downstream R1b lineages came from the east starting around 3000 BC, the answer is clear; yes, they did. Whether...
  8. Thread: R1b-L51

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    Five of the samples from the Narva culture have...

    Five of the samples from the Narva culture have turned out to be M73, which is the same lineage found in Lebyazhinka IV, Sok River, Samara and later in Botai. Like M269 and V88 it seems that they...
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    @ Moesan I'm going to give you an example of...

    @ Moesan

    I'm going to give you an example of genetic continuity in Iberia. In this case it refers to the Castilian plateau. We have many samples from Chalcolithic and Bronze Age, all of them...
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    Please don't get into that kind of discussion,...

    Please don't get into that kind of discussion, it's not worth wasting a second of our time.
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    Do you have something to say about the origin of...

    Do you have something to say about the origin of the Basques and the other Iberians or are you going to limit yourself to saying stupid things? I wouldn't want this thread to turn into some kind of...
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    Perhaps when you refer to eastern Mediterranean...

    Perhaps when you refer to eastern Mediterranean influences you mean El Argar culture, because archaeologists have always thought that there was some kind of influence from that region. This is the...
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    That is not true, these gentlemen are not direct...

    That is not true, these gentlemen are not direct descendants of the Jimena dynasty

    + Genetic characterization of the House of Aragon-Begoña Martínez Jarreta- University of Zaragoza- Genetic study...
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    I was not talking about physical appearance, but...

    I was not talking about physical appearance, but about the unipersonal markers and autosomal components. Regarding these data, if you look at the PCA that I have sent you will realize that the...
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    Hap-Y R1b R1a I1 ...

    Hap-Y R1b R1a I1 I2a I2b G T N Q J2 J1 E1b1b
    Irlanda- 81,0 2,5 6,0 1,0...
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    12623 We have always thought that we are more...

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    We have always thought that we are more similar to Italians than French, but clearly this is not the case.
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    Davidtab has clearly explained what the spaniards...

    Davidtab has clearly explained what the spaniards feel. We have simply been amazed at the low percentage of African blood that we have. These are the percentages of the last published work
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    You already know that geneticists like to make...

    You already know that geneticists like to make discoveries that may seem surprising or novel, so that their papers have a greater impact on public opinion. Harvardians-Prof Reich are specialists in...
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    I have blue eyes and my parents have brown...

    I have blue eyes and my parents have brown (although my grandfather and some relatives also have blue eyes). My children 50% blue and brown (my wife brown). When I was a child, at school, Father...
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    We have to wait for the results of vettones,...

    We have to wait for the results of vettones, vacceos and astures. Although they practiced cremation, there are many remains of newborn children buried in the ground of the houses- Then we will know...
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    @Moesan Concerning Olalde and Iberia, this...

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    Concerning Olalde and Iberia, this image was used by Reich to explain his theory of the conquest of mainland Europe by the horsemen of the steppes and the extermination of all the male...
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    Ok here you go ...

    Ok here you go

    http://tp.revistas.csic.es/index.php/tp/article/view/693
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    @Moesan Regarding the linguistic issue, Basque...

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    Regarding the linguistic issue, Basque is not the solution to the problem because we obviously do not have writings from the Iron Age. The key is in the Iberian and Tartessian languages....
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    @Moesan Helladic streams since 2.500 BC? I...

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    Helladic streams since 2.500 BC? I have no idea what you are talking about, Greek colonies appear in the Iron Age.
    And evidently genetic homogeneity, there are a lot of papers that speak...
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    @Moesan said "OK Gaska. Have you the auDNA making...

    @Moesan said "OK Gaska. Have you the auDNA making of these two men? (apparently BB's). And do you find 2 examples are a demonstration? That said Ciempozuelos vessel as it seems were not older than...
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