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  1. U4a from Trialeti Vanadzor culture. A predictable...

    U4a from Trialeti Vanadzor culture. A predictable result.
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    Now let's see the situation with R1b clades in...

    Now let's see the situation with R1b clades in West Asia.
    So let's start from R1b-Z2106->CTS7763. Based on STRs from Hollard paper this branch is from Afanasievo.
    Not surprisingly only 2% of...
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    Bicicleur There is no consensus about Greek...

    Bicicleur

    There is no consensus about Greek Armenian clade. For example Clackson made a case that there is no such a clade while Ringe thinks there is.
    But if such a link exists then the reason...
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    Maciamo We have L584 adna from NW Iran. And...

    Maciamo

    We have L584 adna from NW Iran. And there is 0% percent indication that it came from BMAC. Quite contrary it looks that it had Anatolian Kum6 shift and closest modern pops to him were the...
  5. Yes they were exclusively Iranian related...

    Yes they were exclusively Iranian related culture. Who later became Scythians mixing with Siberians and W Asians.
    Indo Aryans were already in Indus valley at 2000 - 1600 bc that is why they don't...
  6. Concerning that tree which as far as I understand...

    Concerning that tree which as far as I understand is based on Chang et al computational model. Which can create exotic branchings.
    Any tree that place the split between Indo Aryan and Iranian after...
  7. Milan.M You need to read that Cyprus paper....

    Milan.M

    You need to read that Cyprus paper. Cyprus was Hellenized by E-V13, R1b, and J2-M67. No R1a and I2a1 which both are recent Slavic settlers in Greece during Byzantine epoch.
  8. Maciamo Greeks being as a R1a nation? Hmm.....

    Maciamo

    Greeks being as a R1a nation? Hmm.. Read the Cypriot y dna paper. There is 0 correlation with R1a and Greek language spread into Cyprus. Most R1a present today in Greece is from medieval...
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    raspberry The consensus is that R1a M417 and...

    raspberry

    The consensus is that R1a M417 and R1b M269 are IE. What was before them is not relevant.
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    Johen No. Afanasievo came from Pontic Steppe....

    Johen

    No. Afanasievo came from Pontic Steppe. Bolshemys was a dead end.
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    Olympus Bolshemys is this ...

    Olympus

    Bolshemys is this

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bolshemys_culture
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    My friend looked at Afanasevo. He says they are...

    My friend looked at Afanasevo. He says they are almost certainly Z2103.

    Bolshemis is P297 xM269
  13. Thread: Scythian DNA

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    Yes. Anyway overall the origins of Indo Iranian...

    Yes.
    Anyway overall the origins of Indo Iranian can't change much, because Z645 is found in CWC.
    So r1a Z93 has East European origin almost certainly.
  14. Thread: Scythian DNA

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    Alan It seems You were correct when You where...

    Alan

    It seems You were correct when You where saying that Sintashta was a dead end.

    Btw that R1b belongs to Yamna/Poltavka Z2108 lineage. I suppose in Iran there will be a lot off it today....
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    IronSide I couldn't get that paper on Dragon...

    IronSide

    I couldn't get that paper on Dragon Stones in English. It's not yet published.
    So I will tell my opinion based on genetic data.
    In essence it is a mix of Etiuni hypothesis and Hayassa...
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    IronSide Well I can't answer instead of...

    IronSide

    Well I can't answer instead of Maciamo. He has a theory that Colchian culture in South Caucasus is Armenian. But I don't know any scholar who proposed such a strange idea. Colchian...
  17. Thread: R1b-M269>PF7562

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    R1b-M269>PF7562

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    https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-gRTbgu1F6Ps/WKzA-MgwU6I/AAAAAAAAETE/HCYEkdYqpVY2LRdRVu3cNt0FPmYv5mBQwCLcB/s1600/R1b-PF7562.JPG


    The user Arthwr has a made a map about R1b-PF7562 branch

    He...
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    The closest West Asian to Jewish Q1b is an...

    The closest West Asian to Jewish Q1b is an Armenian. The same is in R1a.
    https://bmcevolbiol.biomedcentral.com/articles/10.1186/s12862-016-0870-2
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    The R1a and Q1b that Jews have are from Mitanni....

    The R1a and Q1b that Jews have are from Mitanni. I don't no any Iranian who is close to that branches.
    Read the recent Q1b paper.
    Also the only R1a CTS6* found today are from Spain and Armenia....
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    There are some outdated informations here about...

    There are some outdated informations here about Armenians.
    The majority of Armenians are L584 (60% of all R1b). Under L584 there is an obvious Armenian cluster with the age 3200 ybp. This basically...
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    Maciamo Thanks for the update. 40% of Hemshin...

    Maciamo

    Thanks for the update. 40% of Hemshin Armenians have G1. I think it is worth to note.
  22. Olympos You Shulaveri will not be late :)...

    Olympos

    You Shulaveri will not be late :)
    http://eurogenes.blogspot.am/2016/10/strong-mitogenomic-continuity-on.html
  23. Olympos Good news for You. Aknashen...

    Olympos

    Good news for You. Aknashen (Shulaveri) site got finances and aDNA from there will not be late.

    There are typos in that article. Millenium instead of century. ...
  24. Kumtepe4 is a BA sample. And it has EHG. Here a...

    Kumtepe4 is a BA sample. And it has EHG.
    Here a better K5 from Hoffmanova.
    It has some 20-30% of EHG (not Yamna). While Armenia Chl has 20% of EHG.
    But off course the exact route of that EHG...
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    5.9% of Armenians from Iran are J2b1. Grugni et...

    5.9% of Armenians from Iran are J2b1. Grugni et al.
    Iran Armenians are mostly from Nakhichevan.
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