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    Check page 152 of Katicic's Ancient Languages of...

    Check page 152 of Katicic's Ancient Languages of the Balkans. Also, don't forget Shtip, which even Matzinger accepts must have had proto Albanian speakers, and that there are at least 4 towns in...
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    But your sources are not valid comparison since...

    But your sources are not valid comparison since you aren't just including ftdna. Gjenetika is voluntary and while we have a lot of personal tests with respect to frequency, there arent that many ngs...
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    Also, 8 results from Cyprus i forgot to put in. 4...

    Also, 8 results from Cyprus i forgot to put in. 4 are EV13 with no deeper classification, the rest are non-european EV22, M84.
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    Ossetian is an Indo-Iranian language. That would...

    Ossetian is an Indo-Iranian language. That would make it more likely to be an indo-iranian lineage than a "proto-greek" one. Also, Ossetia is barely "north caucauses". Its split on both sides of the...
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    This is not my "conclusion". This is a theory...

    This is not my "conclusion". This is a theory that is on the rise from professional scholars, and it relates to the Luwian and Albanian issue of distinguishing the three series of IE stops. The...
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    Ev13 is clearly a minority clade among celts, and...

    Ev13 is clearly a minority clade among celts, and the "hallstatt" that you are claiming is obviously non-celt illyrians that must have been celticized. FGC3362 parent clade S2979 has plenty of...
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    There are 57 public Greek results on the Em35...

    There are 57 public Greek results on the Em35 project https://www.familytreedna.com/public/E3b?iframe=yresults

    Of the E results:

    17 are too low resolution to speculate from which direction.
    14...
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    Liburnians are no longer considered Illyrians by...

    Liburnians are no longer considered Illyrians by linguists but part of the celto-italic branch close to venetic. Also you keep defining cetina as the illyrian culture when linguistically what are...
  9. Absurd "study"

    Absurd "study"
  10. The shared "Albanian-Romanian" substrate doesn't...

    The shared "Albanian-Romanian" substrate doesn't exist apart from a tiny few words. The majority are straight up loan words from Proto-Albanian into Proto-Vlach/Aromanian/Romanian, and don't...
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    Theres no such language as "hallstatt", the...

    Theres no such language as "hallstatt", the non-greek lineages were either illyrian or celtic if you are calling them "hallstatt" since Illyrians also interacted with Hallstatt.


    Arguing for...
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    On Eupedia, old Dienekes blogposts, some other...

    On Eupedia, old Dienekes blogposts, some other forums, roughly this is the number that is seen. You know that very well. Then on the Em35 project, and Yfull checking greek results one can learn about...
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    Greek colonies in illyria are post 1000BC. That's...

    Greek colonies in illyria are post 1000BC. That's quite improbable argument that greek colonists transported archaic ~4000Ybp lineages to illyria and thrace from the south, when central...
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    I mentioned "exceptions" and even the two clades...

    I mentioned "exceptions" and even the two clades you refer to (E-BY3880 and E-37092) also show up in Montenegro and Bulgaria and are not good candidates for proto-Greek.
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    Despite Ev13 frequency in Greece today, by...

    Despite Ev13 frequency in Greece today, by tmrca's we see that it must have entered greece in the last 3000 years from the north. This is too late in greek history, meaning it entered as a non-greek...
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    You are right. Luwian shows all three dorsal...

    You are right. Luwian shows all three dorsal consonant rows survived separately in Proto-Anatolian. This means it is non-centum, and is one of the reasons that more and more linguists are beginning...
  17. No E in carpathian farmers, but I-M253

    No E in carpathian farmers, but I-M253
  18. I'm not as familiar with if there are existing...

    I'm not as familiar with if there are existing Bulgarian minorities today, but that is why i specified where there "have been or are"

    South East Albania has the most old bulgarian toponymy, and it...
  19. False on many levels. Tosks have 9.2% R1a, Ghegs...

    False on many levels. Tosks have 9.2% R1a, Ghegs have 5%. And they in general show up in zones where there have been or are bulgarian minorities.
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    Yeah, they've mixed up the location. Sample I4331...

    Yeah, they've mixed up the location. Sample I4331 is the one found in croatian coast, from Mathieson 2018. Pretty big mistake.
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    Hm, that's odd. Does this site list all its...

    Hm, that's odd. Does this site list all its sources for its references? the number for the "illyrian" sample is I4331, any clue which study it could be from? I'm guessing they mixed up the name.
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    Not related to your comment, but im not so...

    Not related to your comment, but im not so familiar with Serbian Y-dna so maybe you can help. I am currently researching orthodox albanians in the north, and in the Zhica charter of 1220 150 names...
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    One important linguistic evidence to keep in mind...

    One important linguistic evidence to keep in mind is from pg 182 which is copy pasted the previous comment.

    Specifically, Katicic mentions Emona in Slovenia, and that there are 3 visible layers...
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    Ah right, didn't know about that study. Thanks...

    Ah right, didn't know about that study. Thanks for the papers, I will make sure to learn more about vatin.
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    Smyrna has a quite large Albanian population that...

    Smyrna has a quite large Albanian population that are mostly assimilated today as turks. A big chunk of them are refugees from the Nish sanxhak from 1877-1878.

    Can you recommend me some good works...
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