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    One of the most interesting takeaways from this...

    One of the most interesting takeaways from this study is the presence of our first L51(xL11) found in ancient DNA. Of all the groups, I am not terribly surprised that it was found in Italy, among the...
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    There is obviously discontinuity in the Balkans....

    There is obviously discontinuity in the Balkans. A quick look at Mesolithic Serbia at Iron Gates turns up R1b-V88 and I2-M223, both of which are nearly absent today in the same region. The latter,...
  3. "Although Rome has long been a subject of...

    "Although Rome has long been a subject of archaeological and
    historical study, little is known about the genetic history of the Roman population. To fill this gap, we
    performed whole genome...
  4. R1 derive from an ANE lineage that moved west and...

    R1 derive from an ANE lineage that moved west and mixed with Gravettian and earlier lineages who were already in Europe. This is why WHG formed as the ice receded as a merger of YDNA C, I, and a...
  5. If accurate, this would suggest a split of...

    If accurate, this would suggest a split of Italo-Celtic in central Europe and tons of R1b moving into the Italian peninsula in the late Bronze, early Iron Age. Imperial Rome can be explained as...
  6. South Asians, and you can probably include East...

    South Asians, and you can probably include East Asians are very wealthy in USA because that country has attracted the brightest and richest people to immigrate. If history worked out differently and...
  7. Irrelevant. Bashkir are filled, I mean filled...

    Irrelevant. Bashkir are filled, I mean filled with R1a, depending on your sample.
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    What's the Tocharian speaking area? Were you...

    What's the Tocharian speaking area? Were you there? Maybe you're not a real Greek.
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    What more is there to discuss here? R1b-M269+ was...

    What more is there to discuss here? R1b-M269+ was a singluar thrust by the northern Philistines from the Bronze Age collapse in the Aegean, and after a few hundred years local ancestry, or related...
  10. The uniparentals should be as follows. If MBA...

    The uniparentals should be as follows. If MBA North-Central Italy was modern "North Italian" like, we should see large amounts of R1b-L51+ and downstream arriving in Italy from the North/Central...
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    Could be ancient Europeans who settled on the...

    Could be ancient Europeans who settled on the shores of Libya and moved south during the Neolithic period. This would be my guess. I keep hearing "west Mediterranean" mentioned, but they aren't...
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    Every R1b-M269 I have seen in the aDNA record can...

    Every R1b-M269 I have seen in the aDNA record can be modeled as partly Yamnayan. This is because an early split of CHG prior to the Maykop culture was absorbed on the steppe. On the other side of the...
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    What an absurd comment, of course North Italians...

    What an absurd comment, of course North Italians have ancestry from the north, at least from France, indirectly from central Europe. If you agree that southern Italians have Middle Eastern ancestry...
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    The modern samples of Greek territory in Turkey...

    The modern samples of Greek territory in Turkey are rich in R1b-M269 as we saw in the 2011 study here.
    https://bmcevolbiol.biomedcentral.com/articles/10.1186/1471-2148-11-69

    Modern Ukraine isn't...
  15. As an alternative theory, we have tons of R1b in...

    As an alternative theory, we have tons of R1b in BA Iberia, I wonder what this implies for the Etruscans, whom I imagine were similar in autosomes? Yet another non-IE people but with Yamnaya...
  16. Based on hundreds of YDNA samples we have so far,...

    Based on hundreds of YDNA samples we have so far, still nothing indicates R1b as arriving from the Middle East. What does seem clear is that the early Epigravettian descended branch R1b-V88 became...
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    Well there was definitely Yamnaya ancestry in the...

    Well there was definitely Yamnaya ancestry in the Bronze Age Iberians, which by definition is full of EHG ancestry, which originated in ancient Russia. It's not all that far fetched, but the earlier...
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    I believe the Celtiberian is I2-M26 which existed...

    I believe the Celtiberian is I2-M26 which existed in Iberia as early as the Chalcolithic. By 2000 BC, most of Iberia had become R1b-M269 in my view, and this is what the 271 samples suggest. Notice...
  19. I wouldn't waste your time with that country....

    I wouldn't waste your time with that country. You've already been more than patient with the t-roll. I need to bite my tongue else be banned.
  20. USA is the big time exception, since the whole...

    USA is the big time exception, since the whole purpose of importing west Africans was for slavery. In Europe, at least in the UK, this might have been the case for some, and for a time, but...
  21. I didn't get the memo when suggesting that the...

    I didn't get the memo when suggesting that the original Roman founders being north Italian as being "Nordicist", or "Euro-centric". Last I checked, Italy was still Europe, but perhaps it's the fact...
  22. Germany didn't colonize your country, you know...

    Germany didn't colonize your country, you know that, although they arrived in droves after the fact. That was actually one of the reasons why the Nazis were so envious of the British Empire, the...
  23. Yes they did, as did the expansionist Muslims in...

    Yes they did, as did the expansionist Muslims in Europe, prior to the Crusades.
  24. This might be the case for a small number. I can...

    This might be the case for a small number. I can think of a few "white" Canadians who converted and became radicalized and were caught trying to to terrible things and wound up getting shot and...
  25. The L51+ bottleneck, if you will, could be due to...

    The L51+ bottleneck, if you will, could be due to the Yersinia pestis outbreak that caused the downfall of the Neolithic farming communities across Europe (including non agriculturalists like R1b). I...
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