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    I really think the Koszider hoard is the main...

    I really think the Koszider hoard is the main event of spreading E-V13, the western branch forming/influencing Illyrians and the eastern branch forming/influencing Thracians. There should be an...
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    We all agree your theory is elegant. I admit, i...

    We all agree your theory is elegant. I admit, i never thought about some details before which now i find them quite intriguing.

    What you all say, academics lump into Koszider hoards and Koszider...
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    From which region?

    From which region?
  4. I am not particularly familiar with Y-DNA E-M123...

    I am not particularly familiar with Y-DNA E-M123 but i associate it strictly with Levant, Natufian/PPNB derived lineages, they must be the original Pre Proto-Semitic people, either them or some E-M78...
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    So, late bronze age influence doesn't hold ground...

    So, late bronze age influence doesn't hold ground at all. Matt-Pottery Culture is usually associated with Minyan Ware, Middle to Late Helladic.

    Making conclusions solely on images which point...
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    My personal opinion so far, is that the...

    My personal opinion so far, is that the Proto-Illyrians were a mixture of Tumulus Grave Culture known in German as Hügelgräberkultur from around the Alps and Incrusted Ware Culture from Transdanubia,...
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    E1a maybe yes, but A1 is not related to Ancestral...

    E1a maybe yes, but A1 is not related to Ancestral North Africans who were quite different on look/phenotype from both SSA and Eurasians. They took their own evolutionary path.

    Remember the Shum...
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    Ok, Aspurg was right, even Frano Prendi the...

    Ok, Aspurg was right, even Frano Prendi the Albanian Archeologist thinks Matt-Pottery Culture is related to the Central Balkans cultures like Belotic Bela Crkva, is this a similar culture to...
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    Aleksandar Stipcevic, a Croatian archeologist...

    Aleksandar Stipcevic, a Croatian archeologist with Arbanasi ancestry critcized the so called authoctonist archeologists like some Yugoslav and Communist Albanian ones who refused any kind of Late...
  10. This paper seems very contradicting. Like linking...

    This paper seems very contradicting. Like linking E-V13 with Proto-Celtic, Tumulus Culture and Urnfield with Tyrsenian languages.
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    Cremation on a pyre was a thing for that zone of...

    Cremation on a pyre was a thing for that zone of Albania, among the Enchelei, among Epirotans, Ancient Macedonians. All in all there is no other way to explain this. There is not much of space.
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    I choose first option because like you said it...

    I choose first option because like you said it really looks like Albanian is related to Messapian and in turn Messapians could have been heavy E-V13 Z5018.

    Second reason is that i believe the...
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    https://i.imgur.com/1x6Ihi7.png ...

    https://i.imgur.com/1x6Ihi7.png

    https://i.imgur.com/d7wbViX.png

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    So, who are the matt-painted pottery culture?...

    So, who are the matt-painted pottery culture? Some say they formed the later Proto-Greek tribes (Dorians, Aeolians, Ionians?), other say they formed Illyrians from Albania. Hard to say.

    How did...
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    I cannot say much about this, i am going to come...

    I cannot say much about this, i am going to come back at you when i do a research on Matt-Painted Pottery Culture and the connections it has so i understand the chronology.
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    All in all, i expect a more complex picture of...

    All in all, i expect a more complex picture of Illyrians, as noted by various archeologists.
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    Marija Gimbutas noted that Proto-Illyrians...

    Marija Gimbutas noted that Proto-Illyrians migrated into Illyria during Late Bronze Age from Middle Danube, we also see during this time that cremation was introduced into Glasinac:





    So,...
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    I don't agree with Thraco-Cimmerian zone, i think...

    I don't agree with Thraco-Cimmerian zone, i think it might be right for some specific E-V13 subclades like E-V13 CTS9320 but not for the other subclades, but then again more or less it looks like all...
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    Thraco-Cimmerian is a bit exotic culture to...

    Thraco-Cimmerian is a bit exotic culture to associate with E-V13, it might be the case for some specific subclades but not for most of E-V13 Z5018.
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    I am actually quite surprised by newly added...

    I am actually quite surprised by newly added Turkish E-V13 subclades:

    https://www.yfull.com/tree/E-V13/
  21. Couldn't Etruscan language be brought by a R1b...

    Couldn't Etruscan language be brought by a R1b tribe, same as Basque along the Indo-European, what are the linguistic odds?

    If the Etruscans come up as mostly R1b then that's a bit strange...
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    Cardial Pottery => Butmir Culture => Vucedol...

    Cardial Pottery => Butmir Culture => Vucedol Culture ?

    Butmir Culture was partially derived from Cardium: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Butmir_culture

    But, anyway i still trying to make sense...
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    That's something agreed upon, but your theory is...

    That's something agreed upon, but your theory is likely truth as much as the others who insist on IE Danube links. And i personally believe the truth meets somewhere in the middle between your...
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    This is Neolithic Vinca chariot. ...

    This is Neolithic Vinca chariot.

    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DTNe51dXkAY-oqf?format=jpg

    Quite similar to Dubovac-Zuto Brdo Culture

    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DTNijFjWsAAFp63?format=jpg
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  25. A question, when are Italic languages supposed to...

    A question, when are Italic languages supposed to enter Italian peninsula? Did they enter with Proto-Villanovans (Late Bronze Age), or earlier?
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