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  1. I-L161 Isles found in ancient Neolithic DNA in Spain and Germany

    Wolfgang Haak et al., Massive migration from the steppe is a source for Indo-European languages in Europe, bioRxiv http://dx.doi.org/10.1101/013433


    ID I0412
    Culture: Els Trocs, Spain (Cardial...
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    Sticky: 23andme has Stephen Colbert listed as R1b....

    23andme has Stephen Colbert listed as R1b. :confused:
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    Sticky: Yes, I believe it is his son Leonid who was...

    Yes, I believe it is his son Leonid who was tested by FTDNA, although the full name doesn't appear on the project page.
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    Sticky: Anthony Leonid Turkevich...

    Anthony Leonid Turkevich
    en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anthony_L._Turkevich

    I2 Dinaric
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    Poll: I see a linguistic problem there as well. Why...

    I see a linguistic problem there as well. Why would Germanic tribes adopt a Slavic language upon settling in the Balkans? It seems unlikely.
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    Poll: Good point. I2a-din is not present in Britain,...

    Good point. I2a-din is not present in Britain, nor anywhere else where the Romans went. I2a-disles is found mainly in Scotland which was not a part of Roman Britain. I think it's highly unlikely that...
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    ^ You're very welcome!

    ^ You're very welcome!
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    Poll: No, all Dinaric is L147+ AFAIK.

    No, all Dinaric is L147+ AFAIK.
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    Here is some ancient Trypillian DNA analysis...

    Here is some ancient Trypillian DNA analysis (unfortunately only mtDNA)
    iansa.eu/papers/IANSA-2010-01-02-nikitin.pdf
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    Poll: Where do you get that? Dinaric is younger than...

    Where do you get that? Dinaric is younger than Isles for sure.
    TMRCA(Din-N) = 2340 years
    TMRCA(Din-S) = 2040 years
    TMRCA(interclade node) = 2820 years
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    Poll: They are not downstream of Dinaric. Has anyone...

    They are not downstream of Dinaric.

    Has anyone thought about Cucuteni-Trypillian culture as the location of the I2a1b1 founder? Disles could have been carried to Britain by the advancing...
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    Very exciting discovery. They have great info and...

    Very exciting discovery. They have great info and maps on the R1a1a and Subclades Y-DNA Project page.
    familytreedna.com/public/R1a/default.aspx?section=results
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