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    New Y DNA tool

    FTDNA has a tool for public use that allows people to find ancient Y DNA connections and other interesting info.

    https://discover.familytreedna.com/
  2. Without the paper, how is it known that Iron Age...

    Without the paper, how is it known that Iron Age Macedonia corresponds only to North Macedonia and does not include Greek Macedonia? There seems to be a lot of genetic diversity in Iron Age...
  3. The ancient Greeks so far are Empuries-like....

    The ancient Greeks so far are Empuries-like. Would love to know if some of the Iron Age Albania and Macedonia ancestry survived in situ more or less, after the Iron Age, or were people like Doliani...
  4. That some modern Albanians and Greek Macedonians...

    That some modern Albanians and Greek Macedonians plot very close to Iron Age Albania and Macedonia seems very interesting in and of itself, regardless of any relationship to Mycenaeans. When looking...
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    Excellent, thanks for sharing. No surprises ...

    Excellent, thanks for sharing. No surprises
    about the appearance of haplogroups brought by Slavs or that ancient Balkan people mixed with Slavs and were not replaced. Complete replacement was an...
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    Same, more interested in the raw data than the IE...

    Same, more interested in the raw data than the IE homeland theory. Whether it’s the steppe, eastern “Southern Arc” or elsewhere is “all the same.” Reich is soft-walking his conclusion/finding at this...
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    “We provide insights into the Mycenaean period of...

    “We provide insights into the Mycenaean period of the Aegean by documenting variation in the proportion of steppe ancestry (including some individuals who lack it altogether)”

    Though we need to...
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    Argument is too strong a word perhaps, the author...

    Argument is too strong a word perhaps, the author is making a suggestion that IE started in the eastern “Southern Arc” (Iran or thereabout). Via incoming gene flow, IE gathered and spread later, from...
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    “The impermeability of Anatolia to exogenous...

    “The impermeability of Anatolia to exogenous migration contrasts with our finding that the Yamnaya had two distinct gene flows, both from West Asia, suggesting that the Indo-Anatolian language family...
  10. If the modern Greeks in the PCA of this study are...

    If the modern Greeks in the PCA of this study are Macedonians, they appear almost identical to the medieval Doliani sample from Epirus, and thus highly indigenous to that general area for the last...
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    There is also an unofficial R1b from Ambrakia of...

    There is also an unofficial R1b from Ambrakia of the Classical age.

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  12. Great to see another ancient J2a-L70 sample in...

    Great to see another ancient J2a-L70 sample in Italy/Balkans (one of my great-grandfathers was J-L70). This seems to be the oldest sample yet.
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    Are the blue triangles new samples from ancient...

    Are the blue triangles new samples from ancient Greece?
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    In practically all academic studies, or in most...

    In practically all academic studies, or in most of them, mainland Greeks and Albanians plot the farthest south of anyone in the Balkans, not counting the Greek islands. The Mycenaean study is one...
  15. Is this the Doliani result that clusters with...

    Is this the Doliani result that clusters with modern Greeks (possibly Macedonians from Lazaridis Mycenaean study)? I don’t think the samples in this thread have uni-parental results, unless I missed...
  16. Eye-popping amount of J2a-L70 in Kalymnos. That...

    Eye-popping amount of J2a-L70 in Kalymnos. That haplogroup is in my bloodline, confirmed through a relative (sub-clade unknown, unfortunately).

    The Roman Balkans study shows that much E-V13 was...
  17. This seems like a reasonable assumption, based on...

    This seems like a reasonable assumption, based on the samples available. Before the Lazaridis et al. study, some thought Mycenaeans were northern invaders and different than Minoans, but it turned...
  18. Curious about the two “Agios Giorgios?” results...

    Curious about the two “Agios Giorgios?” results and wonder if they are samples from the same location but different eras, plotting far away from each other.
  19. What era are the Greek samples from (red...

    What era are the Greek samples from (red squares)? Is there a paper that can be linked to the PCA?
  20. This is an interesting finding/argument from the...

    This is an interesting finding/argument from the Roman Balkans IA study, about modeling mainland Greeks:13188
  21. If memory serves on history, western Peloponnese...

    If memory serves on history, western Peloponnese fell to the medieval Slavs while eastern Peloponnese remained in Byzantine hands. Perhaps history and science agree pretty well here too, where...
  22. This study does appear to accord with the...

    This study does appear to accord with the Stamatoyannopoulos study, which also found substructure in the Peloponnese:

    “We find considerable heterogeneity of Peloponnesean populations exemplified...
  23. Very nice model, and seems to agree with this...

    Very nice model, and seems to agree with this thread’s origin, if I understand correctly, that mainland Greeks and Albanians are more “western” shifted (less Anatolia_BA ancestry).
  24. According to Eurogenes the unpublished...

    According to Eurogenes the unpublished heterogenous Classical Greek samples are partially Cyprus/Anatolia-like. The unpublished Campania ancient Greek migrants from Euboea homeland were reportedly...
  25. According to this study that has yet to be...

    According to this study that has yet to be published, the ancient Greek settlers of Campania brought “Aegean” ancestry. Not really sure what this means without seeing the results, but this ancestry...
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