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You don't make me angry.
Your archaic thin propaganda makes me laugh.

Etruscans and Latins shared the same Orientalised city-state culture from the East Med.

No language, IE or otherwise,...

@Polska

Nice move trying to squeeze into that long post of yours the notion that the wheel was a Steppe invention.

Actually it was a Sumerian invention from Uruk.

Sorry, not interested in your pseudo-Nordicist Steppe fetish.
The Etruscans were largely R1b, including R-L2 which is pretty European, just like the IE-speaking Latins and Etruscans and Latins were...

@Silesian and real expert

Give it a rest.

The Latins and Etruscans were both far more EEF than Steppe genetically.:wondering:

If you read the early history of Rome you will find that Rome started off largely in defensive mode fighting for survival against Etruscans (not so peaceful), various Apennine mountain tribes and the...

@real expert

The Romans and Etruscans were pretty similar genetically despite the wide linguistic difference.

Some experts believe that Kimg Servius Tullius who re-organised Roman society in...

Some on Anthrogenica think that EHG folk are at the root of IE languages rather than CHG people.

We all know about Nordicists and their nonsense.

Now we have an Uralist. LOL

Obviously the Nazis were wrong. The East Europeans were the supermen.:laughing:

How do you know that Steppe metalsmiths were not from Anatolia or somewhere else south of the Caucasus. Look at the modern link between Bedouin pastoralists and Solubba/Sleyb ironsmiths and tinkers....

Greek mythology shows Greeks were just as superstitious as the Minoans or anybody else in antiquity.

You speculate that the Minoans were somehow spiritually inferior while admitting we know little...

The Mongols were not Indo-European-speakers nor even West Eurasian for that matter.

They were not invincible since the Mamelukes of Egypt defeated them in battle.

The wheel was most likely invented in Mesopotamia and used first of all in the making of pottery.

That just about sums it up.:laughing:

You are an expert in proto-Afro-Asiatic now?

The Steppe people got ironworking from migrants from south of the Caucasus mountains.

Apricity is a zoo and intellectually void.

How can you prove these iron items were not made by ethnic or cultural outsiders?

Up until very recent times Bedouin pastoralists depended on an outcast tribe called the Sleyb/Solubba as...

How are pastoralists more "flexible" than agriculturalists?

What are you talking about?

I think the original Indo-European-speakers were heterogenous from earliest times and many were more like modern Iranians than modern North Europeans.

Also a civilisation and an economy is created...

I think Lawrence Angel was more on the ball than Carleton Coon.

Coon was Cornish American so WASP enough.
His "Races of Europe" is a dog's breakfast especially linking Indo-European languages to the long-headed Nordic phenotype.

Even Lawrence Angel was more...

We definitely need more Iron Age samples from all over Italy.

Double Post

There is little overlap between Italy from Tuscany northwards and Anatolia.

The physical looks are also different in general including nasal length.

Unfortunately, I don't see a big overlap between Anatolia and Italy in Y dna nor in phenotypes.:thinking: