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all the apulia illyrians come from the green part only on map below

https://i.postimg.cc/7P7wNBky/illyricum-split.png


your Illyrian proper is the black part

Foggia is where the Daunians settled from their homeland in the modern border of slovenia and croatia

Remove smooth path in scaledinnovation..............you get more accurate results


Is Agostini ( surname ) from South Tyrol one of these 2 italians ?

new Yfull split

https://i.postimg.cc/bwN13T5h/new-h95.png

There is another Maddalena born same year.

Correct via BDM , records for the H95a Maddalena ia....father, Natale Canderan and mother is Lucia Zatti .........................Luci father is Pietro...

https://i.postimg.cc/9MC8hxs4/cander-h95a.png

@Salento
If the french reddish part is form Vosges Grand Est ...........then clearly this sample fits me very well

as you say.............Daunians, Messapians belong to the same North Balkan group Iapodes ...............which is nowhere near Montenegro and the Illyrian proprie dicti .................

So you...

messapic had already changed after 500 years in Italy ................the Kalabri/calabri at the time lived near modern Taranto ( SW of )

they had already changed their alphabet

Messapic...

whatever link you have with messapic and Albania is due to the Messapic trading with Albania , the people on the Albanian coast be it epirotes or whoever learnt some messapic words........it is not...

@ Salento

I match the Wels sample


I also match the same in YHRD which I did 2 years ago

Can you check the numbers for this sample ?

from the same book you used the upload
Apple Indo-Europeans divide, presumably on an east/west basis into Northwest
Indo-Europeans (pre Italics, Celts, and Phrygians] and Northern Indo-Europeans...

Messapic language is Daunian language it came via Iapodes in the area where Croatia meets Slovenia .............it mixed with Local Italian language once arriving in Italy............its most...

link this paper ......

Messapic language at 300BC was not a pure North-Balkan language anymore, it had already been mixed with the local italic people they absorbed after 600 years .........the...

my father numbers

Distance to: Ponsan_K12b
2.04137209 KF1800761_Friuli-Venezia-Giulia
2.17639610 KF2700960_Friuli-Venezia-Giulia
2.19034244 ALP250_Veneto...

Distance to: Torziok12b
1.63711731 ALP022_Veneto
2.08712721 ALP235_Friuli-Venezia-Giulia
2.80196360 ALP249_Veneto
2.82104591 KF2700960_Friuli-Venezia-Giulia...

so are you saying that Albanians migrated from the Northern Balkans area ?

Are not the Kurds associated with the ancient Medes ?

Interesting ...........................your T1a1 ydna .................i am T1a2 ydna

you have Scandinavian roots ...................I have 50% matching with Swedish, Danish and Finnish people in...

As per Periplus documentations circa 400BC

https://i.postimg.cc/Pf6HSfHq/echen.png

Herodian (2nd century A.D.) mentions that Rhizon takes its name from Rizon, son of Cadmus and brother of Illyrius.[2] The earliest mention of Rhizon dates back to the 4th century BCE in the Periplus...

A legend which he records (Illyr. 1) makes Celtus, Illyrius, and Gala, to have been three brothers, the sons of the Cyclops Polyphemus, and is grounded probably on the intermixture of Celtic tribes...

study these Illyrian names from Noricum Austria ...............there are 5 pages....but I give you one

https://i.postimg.cc/VLrxW3Vv/illyri-pers-vol-1.png

The first decent map of I have seen in regards to Greek and Phoenician med. areas

Histri border was their Peninsula and west to modern Oderzo in Veneto ( basically Friuli was Histrian except for some Liburnian towns ) ....Histrian bordered the Venetics , who over time pushed...