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  1. Ok, that makes sense. I forgot to go back and see...

    Ok, that makes sense. I forgot to go back and see that plot, went back and got the paper and I see it now. Thanks
  2. Jovialis: I have looked at that plot so many...

    Jovialis: I have looked at that plot so many times but I still struggle to see where Sicily1 and Sicily2 are, it seems they are buried under the inverted SItay1 sample in yello right next to and...
  3. Not my term Ailchu, you said there was no...

    Not my term Ailchu, you said there was no europeanness. That was your statement, my question was why did't you say the same thing about any other continent and peoples from those continents.

    As...
  4. Europe is Europe, but yes, Europe is not a...

    Europe is Europe, but yes, Europe is not a monolith. Do you actually not believe that by the 1st millenium BC, Germans were not Germans, Italians were not Italians, Greeks were not Greeks, Iberians...
  5. There was no such thing as Europeaness back then....

    There was no such thing as Europeaness back then. I disagree. But for the sake of your argument, was there "Asianess" back then? Was there "Africaness" back then? I think it is pretty clear that...
  6. Ygorcs: So with respect to Sicilian_East and...

    Ygorcs: So with respect to Sicilian_East and Sicilian_West, Sicilian West for Levant + Iranian source 16.8, Sicilian_East 16.2 for those 2 sources, if you had GEO_CHG, Sicilian_East is 18.6 ancestral...
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    We are my friend, I will send you a classic...

    We are my friend, I will send you a classic Sicilian dinner, start with Bread and Arancini as the starter, some Pasta and Mussels for entree, and desert, Granita and Cannoli. You send me your best...
  8. I meant to say "none of those papers" found...

    I meant to say "none of those papers" found differences, statistical differences. I have edited my original post.
  9. That movie is from the 90's, Tarantino did it for...

    That movie is from the 90's, Tarantino did it for effect, yes, but what happens is WASP American country club elite, the Nordicist on one extreme and Afro-Centrist took it as "Gospel". The WASP used...
  10. Riverman: I am all for freedom of speech, save...

    Riverman: I am all for freedom of speech, save the obvious (i.e. threatening speech) but your post about Rome being all over Europe, etc or genetically everyone is Roman kind of showed your hand, in...
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    Salento: No problem, I need to come here for a...

    Salento: No problem, I need to come here for a while, there is now a thread, that has been going on the last 2 days is about to make my freaking head explode.
  12. Ok, as I have said numerous times, all of my...

    Ok, as I have said numerous times, all of my ancestors immigrated to the USA between 1890-1905 from Sicily. One Grandparent was born there. I don't think my personal DNA results are different from...
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    Salento: Again, very, very neat results.

    Salento: Again, very, very neat results.
  14. Ok, thanks for the clarification. I appreciate it...

    Ok, thanks for the clarification. I appreciate it Angela. I got little pissed off earlier at the direction of this thread and went played golf for 18 holes, just got back and I was like what is...
  15. Ok, thanks.

    Ok, thanks.
  16. Who me, I am rejecting the Eurogenes playbook. I...

    Who me, I am rejecting the Eurogenes playbook. I have never run G25 in my life.
  17. Ygorcs: Oh I new it was BS argument from jump....

    Ygorcs: Oh I new it was BS argument from jump. Thank you for chiming in. Much appreciated. More to the point, what is the underlying philosophy at some of these other blogs to try to say well, West...
  18. Riverman: Again, so all the papers that show no...

    Riverman: Again, so all the papers that show no significant difference between West and East Sicily, or genetic clustering with Sicily (All) with Mainland South (Parolo et al 2016, Sazzini et al 2016...
  19. The additional Near East in Sicilian West does...

    The additional Near East in Sicilian West does not totally surprise me and I have always acknowledged that there is some Levant admixture in Sicily, that obviously is more recent than what was...
  20. Jovialis/Salento: Good thread, but I have a...

    Jovialis/Salento: Good thread, but I have a related question that I want your opinion on. I have my DNA results from Ancestry and NATGENO. I am someone that always wants to calibrate and find as many...
  21. You are correct, the authors of Antonio et al...

    You are correct, the authors of Antonio et al 2019 clearly write that in the paper, 31 of the 48 cluster in C5/C6 which runs from Central Italy to Southern Italy, Malta to Greece and Cyprus.

    13 of...
  22. I am curious, which Imperial Roman source do we...

    I am curious, which Imperial Roman source do we need. Antonio et al 2019 analyzed 48 Imperial Romans

    From the text, an I quote "During the Imperial period (n = 48 individuals), the most prominent...
  23. Interesting Data. Do you have the data for...

    Interesting Data. Do you have the data for Jewish groups living in Iran, Iraq, or Levant or other places to compare them to those that have lived in Europe. Eurogenes K13_updated samples has...
  24. Yep Angela, agree, you had a similar traditional...

    Yep Angela, agree, you had a similar traditional classic Catholic type education that I had. Not to turn this into a theological discussion, but it is related. The Greek Septuagint translation, done...
  25. This entire thread gets the old Siskel and Ebert...

    This entire thread gets the old Siskel and Ebert 2 Thumbs Up!, and all posts to this point have been on point.

    Cheers.
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