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    Poll: My opinion is that branches of I2a, more...

    My opinion is that branches of I2a, more precisely behind branch https://www.yfull.com/tree/I-S17250/ originally coming with White Croatian tribe which is later divided to multiple communities.
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    Poll: For now, we can say that genetics of Bosnian...

    For now, we can say that genetics of Bosnian Croats is probably autochthonous ie from pre-Turkish period.

    Croats as Catholics (main enemies of the Ottomans) were left isolated. No one at that...
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    The problem is that genetics is viewed from...

    The problem is that genetics is viewed from today's perspective and then interpreted. Surely there are also psychological problems in the Balkans because no one would like to be someone else ie of a...
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    I don't know why this is so in other countries...

    I don't know why this is so in other countries (small samples). Otherwise my wet dreams are 1100 samples for Croatians with Big Y. After that, I could die with a smile.
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    This is from 2012, "Croatian national reference...

    This is from 2012, "Croatian national reference Y-STR haplotype database" .


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    Probably yes.

    Probably yes.
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    I use raw data from Serbian portal Poreklo or...

    I use raw data from Serbian portal Poreklo or Albanian portals etc. They are needed because they are more detailed. I also use public Y DNA bases and YFull. But I'm talking about statistics for some...
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    Unfortunately such a way to get some results that...

    Unfortunately such a way to get some results that is, their presentation is entering into anarchy. No one doubts to your or someone else good faith but every portal, private person, association, etc...
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    Like I said, it’s better to use peer-reviewed...

    Like I said, it’s better to use peer-reviewed sources because we are still in the balkans but that balkan is visible and in peer-reviewed source which I have exposed, so in the future we have to be...
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    Otherwise in recent time there is also and...

    Otherwise in recent time there is also and artificial lifting of individual haplotypes and through peer-reviewed sources, so we have to think about that too.

    An example is the genetics of the...
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    For some more specific conclusion we must use...

    For some more specific conclusion we must use peer-reviewed sources, while for some approximate conclusion we can use and some private(portal) statistics.

    Private statistics are not made according...
  12. Yes, this branch should have connections with the...

    Yes, this branch should have connections with the White Croats. It will be interesting to follow development of the situation in your case. When something new occur, report it here.
  13. We have new archeogenetic data which may indicate...

    We have new archeogenetic data which may indicate direction of movements part of White Croats to Croatia. The place of this archeogenetic samples is Pohansko...
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    Poll: I-Y18331* (https://www.yfull.com/tree/I-Y18331*/)...

    I-Y18331* mutation probable show that source of that mutation is in Poland(based on a new sample from Poland), while brotherly mutation is in Ukraine. Given that White Croats do not bring this...
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    Poll: Migration of Croats to Roman Dalmatia is...

    Migration of Croats to Roman Dalmatia is explained here. https://www.eupedia.com/forum/threads/31539-Genetics-confirm-migration-of-White-Croats-to-Croatia

    By the way, it is mostly the same I2a...
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    Poll: You go too wide. For now, we barely know that...

    You go too wide. For now, we barely know that mutation I-S17250 is from south Poland. It is connected to Croatian ancestors. And who earlier passed there, stayed, etc is even harder to guess. ...
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    Poll: If they are assimilated then those who...

    If they are assimilated then those who assimilated them are not Celts. If you think that they become Bastarnae after assimilation, still they should have part of Celts genetics. Assimilation may have...
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    Poll: Yes, and the Goths also passed through Poland,...

    Yes, and the Goths also passed through Poland, Ukraine and the Balkans. It is possible that I1 which Croats etc have is from them. And that's it, but I-Y3120 mutations have nothing to do with Celts....
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    Poll: Characteristic of the Celts is R1b, whether they...

    Characteristic of the Celts is R1b, whether they have some other genetics probably yes, but they do not have mutations in I-Y3120 branch which proves that there was no mixing.
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    Poll: It is not possible that Celts come to Britain and...

    It is not possible that Celts come to Britain and bring only one haplotype from where they coming. They must bring and other haplotypes if this other haplotypes exist among them , but this is not...
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    This theory(expanded from western/northwestern...

    This theory(expanded from western/northwestern Balkans. "Ljubljana culture") should be proved with Slovenian R1b branches. I don't know if that's the case?

    As for the island Krk is concerned,...
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    Poll: There are no haplotypes within Croatian genetics...

    There are no haplotypes within Croatian genetics which would showed links with the Celts.



    Therefore if branch I-Y3120 has something to with the Celts that would be evident in the genetic of...
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    Poll: Which Celtic? I guess there would be something of...

    Which Celtic? I guess there would be something of that branch across the British Isles that is, in the areas where Celtic migrated. It is a mutation which is separated from southern Poland I2a...
  24. Yes, when we look at most of autosomal results,...

    Yes, when we look at most of autosomal results, many Russians, Ukrainians, Czechs, etc. have the Balkan in a large percentage. In my opinion it is a common White Croatian but also a Proto-Slavic...
  25. https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s12520-0...

    https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s12520-019-00996-0

    This information is known(from 2020), for now everything points to the fact that White Croatia or White Croats have originate in...
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