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    Thank you! I was aware of his article, which is...

    Thank you! I was aware of his article, which is great, I just wanted to confirm some of the info after reading a few different things online.
    Edit - link doesn't work
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    Haplogroup I in the Mesolithic

    So most of my interest in haplogroups came from recorded history, the Slavs etc.

    Lately I've been reading into its further origins. According to Eupedia, I2 was the most common haplogroup in...
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    Poll: Hey that's something I read at some point by some...

    Hey that's something I read at some point by some historian. There are links to old Croats and Antes historically, as well as Sclavenians.
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    Poll: I find it amusing how often White Croatia is...

    I find it amusing how often White Croatia is mentioned by historians. I thought it was more a mythical state? I've also read that most South Slavs were probably settlers from many small tribes that...
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    Poll: @Miroslav So from what I understand, you're...

    @Miroslav
    So from what I understand, you're saying I2 didn't arrive with Croats and Serbs? Then who did it arrive with?
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    That is all true. Even the sycthian samples rated...

    That is all true. Even the sycthian samples rated to me were from Ukraine, Moldova and Bulgaria. Must have just been mixing with natives. Though according to what I've learned we're all VERY mixed.
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    Ahh, that immediately makes the most sense.

    Ahh, that immediately makes the most sense.
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    Could I2a have been Scythian?

    So not too long ago I got tested on 23 and Me, then later went to Gedmatch and mytrueancestry.

    Mytrueancestry compares your results to that of samples from bones found in ancient cultures burial...
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    Poll: I doubt it simply because I2-din is almost...

    I doubt it simply because I2-din is almost non-existent in western Europe. Unless the entire population got up and moved (doubt it).
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    Poll: Russian...?

    Russian...?
  11. rofl oh the irony

    rofl oh the irony
  12. Wolves were as relevant to Slavs as to Dacians or...

    Wolves were as relevant to Slavs as to Dacians or anyone that had to deal with them. Surnames are irrelevant (mostly). I'm a history buff and this is the first time I've heard of Dacians being "wolf...
  13. Well the slaves were torn apart from their...

    Well the slaves were torn apart from their families and sold all across the Empire. I2 exists in small minority groups in almost every European country. We also don't know the populations of these...
  14. Slovenia has a mountain called Triglav, similar...

    Slovenia has a mountain called Triglav, similar to the Slavic pagan gods worshipped in Poland. Croatia has a memorial plaque of Perun that was carved in the dark ages. And like Wonomyro said,...
  15. Cultures change over time. Whatever part of the...

    Cultures change over time. Whatever part of the mixed Slavs is from another. As we said, South Slavs are Slavs that mixed with balkanic folk. We arent Puerto Rican
  16. Well then I guess its up to heritage and what is...

    Well then I guess its up to heritage and what is passed down your family. You'll know your Slavic or not. Or by what your saying I guess im African or Japanese whenever I feel like it
  17. If one of your parents/grandparents were a Slav,...

    If one of your parents/grandparents were a Slav, then you're partially Slav. How much genetic heritage? Don't know, but the more genetic Slav you are, the closer you'll be to that heritage. If you're...
  18. I disagree with the end statement. Its not a...

    I disagree with the end statement.
    Its not a religion but an ethnic group. You dont get to decide what ethnicity you are, its your heritage, family, ancestors, closest relatives. I'm just curious...
  19. ........................what am I even reading

    ........................what am I even reading
  20. Well I didnt mean they necessarily went extinct,...

    Well I didnt mean they necessarily went extinct, just became a minority in their former homelands. How are Bosnian Croats 50% native? We're generally purest with haplogroup i2 and very few of us have...
  21. So the idea I'm forming of the South Slav...

    So the idea I'm forming of the South Slav ethno-genesis is something like as follows:

    Area was dominated by Illyrian tribes who were most likely not closely related to most of modern day South...
  22. According to what Dibran said it seems fairlt...

    According to what Dibran said it seems fairlt reasonable. Or is he simply wrong?
  23. I was wondering, is there a possible connection...

    I was wondering, is there a possible connection to Germanic tribes? Ostogoths, Vandals, etc, all passed through the region. Ostogoths even established a kingdom around x yugo territory for a couple...
  24. They were soft

    They were soft
  25. well according to Dibran; "There already is...

    well according to Dibran;
    "There already is evidence in what Illyrians carried and it wasn’t I2a-Din. However many South Slavs seem to have an issue with this reality(not saying you)*. The affinity...
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