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You are right but i think we shouldn´t interpret too much into one PCA. Villabrunna and Loschbour are quite far from one another, though both are WHG.

I don't if this was already shared by someone but is this the first PCA which includes Dzudzuana ?


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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0zWcpml63ls&t=364s


It's just a PCA but it...

So this is also my last post on this thread.

Yes, WHGs lived for a long time in northern latitudes. That's why it is surprising that they hadn't genes we usually see everywhere around the world...

You guys come and pretend that I tried to shut someones speech or didn't want to discuss pigmentation and then I reply with my opinion about your motivations, I should take my pills, now that's fair...

All SSAs look dark brown or even black(Nilotics) to me except the Khoi san and guys, there are maybe 20-30 threads where we have talked about pigmentation. Most of my posts on this forum are related...

I get your point, see I just wrote with the data available TODAY it´s the most likely and I know that East Asians have their own skin depigmentation genes, that's why wrote that all of those...

Btw, the Vlasic HGs had brown and blue eyes. Maybe the 100% blue eyed WHGs are the result of a bottleneck ?

You are aware that all of those populations you mentioned have known skin depigmentation genes ? Actually most of them even have the same ones you see in europeans. I don't know why the predicted...

It's not speculative, it's just that with the data available today, dark is the most likely skin colour. Maybe they will detect other skin depigmentation genes in the future. The study also show...

Hmm, I doubt that they have any Greek ancestry... IMHO this is not a well done paper

Tut is R1b-U152 ?! Is this a joke ?

Razib asked Lazaridis about the paper few months ago. Lazaridis replied "we have new samples, they waited for more than 20000 years, they can wait a little longer".

Vlasic HGs are I2 and R1b just like Villabrunna and Riparo Tagliente and the West HGs in this paper. East 1 HGs admixted with Vlasic HGs to produce the "Anatolian farmers" with G2 ? Wouldn't that...

"Yeyy Haplogroups are everything and determine phenotype", these kind of people you should definitely avoid if you are interested in genetics.

Calm down, Turkish Nationalist/Grey Wolves are always first when it comes to making everything Indo-Iranian into Turkic or Proto-Turkic. They play this game since decades. Nothing new about it.

Great news ! I guess herd immunity through this vaccine will take a few months in the US and in Europe little longer, maybe til summer 2021.
By the way, BioNTech is a german company founded by...

Steppe worshipper Razib... Can someone tell him that he is genetically more a "Dasa" than an Indo-Iranian...

What sublcade of R1b does he have ?

Thanks for sharing Angela. Mesopotamia is a black box for now. The population turnover we see in the Levante will be much bigger if we have the real source populations. There are many candidates:...

Hmm... i am not familiar with qpAdm modelling. Maybe they should have included CHG. The other EHG results also don't seem right to me.

This one? :

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Good question... but I think some HGs from Eastern Europe maybe Samara_HG or Karelia_HG. Both are very very much alike.

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There are so many source populations for 5-10% Steppe ancestry in Levantines(Peninsula Arabs have no steppe). Greeks,Romans,IE Iranian,Ottomans,Armenians,Slaves from northern...

Yes, that's exactly what they imply in the paper:



From the Supplementary Material:

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J1 and ancient Iranian ancestry from the North. I think it was you, Angela and also Ygorcs who...

The Genomic History of the Middle East

Abstract

The Middle East is an important region to understand human evolution and migrations, but is underrepresented in genetic studies. We generated and...

You are right. Some of them look quite Caucasoid:
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