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    I agree, there is a majority on both sides who...

    I agree, there is a majority on both sides who don't want peace.
    Therefore I'm labeled pro-Palestinian and ant-Semitic in here.

    And they are so liberal.

    blablabla
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    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marija_Gimbutas ...

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marija_Gimbutas

    she was a highly respected Lithuanian archeologist, nobody questioned her

    she praised 'old Europe' (neolithic Balkan) as peaceful, egalitarian and...
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    That is almost like Maria Gimbutas her...

    That is almost like Maria Gimbutas her interpretation.
    Till they discovered the inequality in the Varna cemetery.
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    I see, you're very swift in making your...

    I see, you're very swift in making your conclusions, but they don't make sense.
    You're twisting other peoples words and your own.
    I have no intention to discuss any further with you.
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    Belgium has 7 governments. They have the largest...

    Belgium has 7 governments.
    They have the largest number of ministers and officials per capita in the world.
    Instead of making governance more efficient it makes it more complicated.
    And still...
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    somebody started to accuse somebody else of being...

    somebody started to accuse somebody else of being anti-Semitic

    this whole thread is derailing again

    some have very large toes in here
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    he was criticising Trump and Israel, not the Jews...

    he was criticising Trump and Israel, not the Jews
    it's obvious you can't see the difference
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    do you think criticism on Israel is anti-Semitic?...

    do you think criticism on Israel is anti-Semitic?
    being pro-Palestine is not blaming the Jews for everything
    by the way I'm neither pro-Palestine nor pro-Israel
    it's not black and white
  9. I don't see the point. There is nothing...

    I don't see the point.
    There is nothing scientific about it.
    We could as well start a thread discussing whether the earth is flat.
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    there is another study though : ...

    there is another study though :

    https://www.biorxiv.org/content/biorxiv/suppl/2017/07/30/164400.DC2/164400-1.pdf

    on the formation of the SHG

    the author claims these people finaly got extinct...
  11. check obsidian trade route obsidian from...

    check obsidian trade route
    obsidian from Capadocia was traded in the southern levant by 16 ka
    probably G2a2 L1259 arrived in Capadocia and started mining obsidian there...
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    Maasai are a mixture of Nilotic A1b-M13, Bantu...

    Maasai are a mixture of Nilotic A1b-M13, Bantu E-M2 and Kusjite E-M35 (Levantine).
    The Bantu E-M2 split from Levantine E-M35 41,5 ka.
    In general the Nilotic are taller than the Bantu or the Kusjite...
  13. better wait than chew older studies again and...

    better wait than chew older studies again and speculate
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    interesting high density areas may have been...

    interesting
    high density areas may have been trading centres indeed
    I wonder though about the high density area in central Iberia
    wasn't this area one of the earliest Bell Beaker areas?
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    it is something few people realise just think...

    it is something few people realise

    just think
    the human population - like any other living creatures can grow exponentialy if there are no constraints
    we are 7,5 billion on earth now, which...
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    yamna is more specific R1b-Z2103 but for IE I...

    yamna is more specific R1b-Z2103
    but for IE I would include R1b-M269, which also incorporates a Caucasian branch : R1b-PF7562
    it looks very much like R1b-PF7562 got into the Caucasus area after...
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    they specificaly kept the EPAS1 gen allthough I...

    they specificaly kept the EPAS1 gen allthough I can't imagine they stayed at high altitdudes since 48 ka - the estimated time of admixture
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    https://indo-european.eu/wp-content/uploads/2018/0...

    https://indo-european.eu/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/qpgraph-dzudzuana.jpg?x59466

    Isn't CHG a mixture of Dzudzuana with ANE and EHG a mixture of ANE with WHG ?
    It seems to me that the Dzudzuana in...
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    Ok yes, that is true, but it is 2000 or more...

    Ok yes, that is true, but it is 2000 or more years ago.

    Europe didn't come out of the dark ages because those cultures suddenly came to live again.
    It is because of some rational thinkers that...
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    that is ok Jovialis

    that is ok Jovialis
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    I agree, it is not a matter of liking. But in...

    I agree, it is not a matter of liking.
    But in reality, some seem to be proud for having steppe, and others are proud for not having steppe.
    As if having steppe or not makes you a whole different...
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    are the Barbarians still living north of Greece &...

    are the Barbarians still living north of Greece & Italy?
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    denisovan epas1 gen into Tibetans

    https://www.pnas.org/content/118/22/e2020803118?fbclid=IwAR1LFaA49H94Bl1cTRA7O1ZpWT4RMIogcZfnvT7AHaOhv0vZoC5xehpt5ig

    https://www.pnas.org/content/pnas/118/22/e2020803118/F4.large.jpg
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    correct there were probably many pré-L51 in many...

    correct
    there were probably many pré-L51 in many place between 6,4 and 5 ka, but that doesn't matter
    only the one that founded his tribe in central Europe ca 5 ka counts
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    how, for heavens sake does a thread re steppe and...

    how, for heavens sake does a thread re steppe and western europe end up quarreling about ancient Greeks and Romans?
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