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  1. Well, if we said, say, that certain I1 in Sicily...

    Well, if we said, say, that certain I1 in Sicily could have been taken there by Normans, we would not be suggesting I1 originated in Normandy. So I didn't mark R-L2 as Venetian, and I don't believe...
  2. Yes, I saw these R-L2->R-FGC13617 men yesterday...

    Yes, I saw these R-L2->R-FGC13617 men yesterday in the FTDNA Project. They seem close to each other. The MDKA of the Greek had a name that looks Italian(ized?).
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  4. The speculation remains, but I firstly answered...

    The speculation remains, but I firstly answered to New Englander and may have lost the focus. It seems he wasn't referring to his patrilineal origin after all; to how the clade was taken to Albania. ...
  5. Curiously, I couldn't find any Albanian in R-U152...

    Curiously, I couldn't find any Albanian in R-U152 Project at FTDNA. It must be really uncommon around there.
    Accidently, there're few R-L2 men from Corfu (and also Montenegro).
    Whoever left R-L2 in...
  6. True. That's why I said "Another possibility,...

    True. That's why I said "Another possibility, among others". R-L2 arrived there in some way. It's an open question how it happened.

    The area in question included parts of modern Albania, no? ...
  7. Another possibility, among others: Venetians....

    Another possibility, among others: Venetians. R-L2, my maternal grandfather's line, has a relatively high frequency in Veneto (especially in Treviso province).

    Venetian Albania:...
  8. Not really. Those are R, not R*. Same for all...

    Not really. Those are R, not R*. Same for all other macro-haplogroups, in the sense you'll find participants not tested downstream in all of them: J, E, G, T etc.
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    Indeed. Btw, please use the list of Duarte to see...

    Indeed. Btw, please use the list of Duarte to see how we compare.

    Cheers
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    Thanks, Duarte. Distance to:...

    Thanks, Duarte.



    Distance to:
    RegioX(FTDNA)


    2.89968964
    R55___Medieval_Era_Villa_Magna
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    Sticky: Wow! I didn't know there are so many Brazilians...

    Wow! I didn't know there are so many Brazilians and Argentines with some Italian ancestry.

    https://i.redd.it/ivisix9akf741.png
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    @Angela This random combination between my...

    @Angela
    This random combination between my parents generated a Piedmontese basically. lol In K15, this similarity to Piedmontese is likely related to my very high Atlantic %. I guess it also...
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    Dodecad K12b updated spreadsheet Regio X...

    Dodecad K12b updated spreadsheet

    Regio X (FTDNA),6.85,0,0.83,0,37.94,27.68,0,0,5.67,0,21.03,0



    Distance to:
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    Eurogenes K13 updated spreadsheet Regio X...

    Eurogenes K13 updated spreadsheet


    Regio X (FTDNA),35.64,14.28,22.14,9.81,16.50,1.32,0,0,0,0.31,0,0,0



    Distance to:
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    Doing the same here. Still not that good. ...

    Doing the same here. Still not that good.



    Distance to:
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    6.21478881
    Italia_Piemonte
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    It seems K13 worked better than K15 for us.

    It seems K13 worked better than K15 for us.
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    Eurogenes K15 updated spreadsheet Mother -...

    Eurogenes K15 updated spreadsheet

    Mother - 23andMe data
    Mother (23andMe),21.49,23.29,8.51,5.84,19.59,8.92,10.22,1.95,0,0,0,0.18,0,0,0



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    Eurogenes K15 updated spreadsheet Father -...

    Eurogenes K15 updated spreadsheet

    Father - 23andMe data
    Father (23andMe),19.38,21.32,9.23,5.85,18.59,8.54,14.39,1.08,1.62,0,0,0,0,0,0



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    Eurogenes K15 updated spreadsheet Myself -...

    Eurogenes K15 updated spreadsheet

    Myself - FTDNA data
    Regio X (FTDNA),18.00,27.25,7.31,5.55,18.05,10.25,11.91,1.69,0,0,0,0,0,0,0



    Distance to:
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    Mother - 23andMe data Mother...

    Mother - 23andMe data
    Mother (23andMe),5.03,0.21,1.33,0,37.33,29.53,0,0,5.60,0,20.98,0



    Distance to:
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    3.68669228
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    Father - 23andMe data Father...

    Father - 23andMe data
    Father (23andMe),7.92,0,0.69,0,36.48,28.19,0.26,0,6.36,0,20.09,0



    Distance to:
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    2.68057830
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    Myself - FTDNA data Regio X...

    Myself - FTDNA data
    Regio X (FTDNA),6.85,0,0.83,0,37.94,27.68,0,0,5.67,0,21.03,0



    Distance to:
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    2.89968964
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    I guess Duarte will love this one, especially the...

    I guess Duarte will love this one, especially the refrain.
    Right, Duarte? ;)
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    Curiously, I get higher Atlantic than all in this...

    Curiously, I get higher Atlantic than all in this sheet, and more West Asian than all North Italians except Romagna. This high Atlantic % of mine must be related to certain overfits also in FTDNA,...
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    So wrong. We don't have a billion of ancestors 30...

    So wrong. We don't have a billion of ancestors 30 generations back. There's a thing called "pedigree collapse".
    Neither do we inherit the same amount of DNA from every ancestor in each generation....
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