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    I had not seen that other article before. Thanks...

    I had not seen that other article before. Thanks for posting it. I like that website a lot based on the two articles I’ve read thus far. I’ll check out the rest of the website / articles when I have...
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    Hello Flann Fina. I did see your earlier post....

    Hello Flann Fina. I did see your earlier post. Thank you. I don’t post very often and when I do it will most likely be on this forum.

    I agree with you that I’m leaning towards the first option as...
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    Thanks for sharing that article Flann Fina. In my...

    Thanks for sharing that article Flann Fina. In my opinion that’s the best articulation and summary of the data we have thus far regarding early Scandinavia and the origins of modern I1.


    If I1...
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    It’s a shame that there is so much bickering on...

    It’s a shame that there is so much bickering on archaeogenetic forums and not more collaborative discourse.

    “The more I know, the more I realize I know nothing.”
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    I didn’t really surf enough of the website on a...

    I didn’t really surf enough of the website on a regular basis to have a meaningful opinion on the aforementioned issues.


    I did regularly surf the academic studies section and the I1 haplogroup...
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    I1/I2 Split To I1 TMRCA Mystery

    I’m posting this in this general y haplogroup thread instead of the I1 section because I feel that what I’m about to write applies to any subclade branch with many phyloequivalent snps.

    I feel...
  7. In case anyone is interested I looked at the BAM...

    In case anyone is interested I looked at the BAM file for the single I1 sample and it has poor coverage. I looked at over 50 SNPs downstream of the I1 subclade branch including all of the...
  8. Disappointing so see only one I1 sample. I’ve...

    Disappointing so see only one I1 sample. I’ve read about widespread trading networks connecting Europe during the Bronze Age. However, there doesn’t appear to be any real gene flow out of Scandinavia...
  9. Thread: Big Y 700

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    When did you get your results? Their website is...

    When did you get your results? Their website is saying 12-14 weeks these days.
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    I think I read somewhere that the whole point of...

    I think I read somewhere that the whole point of that test is to isolate the ANE and that the rest of the admixture should be ignored.

    Interesting that that my ANE percentage of 13.82% is very...
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    I think I read somewhere that the whole point of...

    I think I read somewhere that the whole point of that test is to isolate the ANE and that the rest of the admixture should be ignored.

    Interesting that that my ANE percentage of 13.82% is very...
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    Thanks for the blue/red descriptions. How exactly...

    Thanks for the blue/red descriptions. How exactly does purple fit in?

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    I’m not familiar with the technology 23andMe...

    I’m not familiar with the technology 23andMe uses. However, with Ftdna I know that the same base pair location gets many reads and occasionally a negative read will pop up such as 49 T (Thymine) and...
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    How do you know you’re negative for L64? How many...

    How do you know you’re negative for L64? How many reads did you have for that specific base pair location? What kind of testing did you have done? What does Ftdna have you labeled as? If you truly...
  15. Thread: I1-Bottleneck

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    I1 was formed around 27,500 years ago when it...

    I1 was formed around 27,500 years ago when it split apart from I2 yet the most recent common ancestor for all modern I1 individuals is around 4,600 years ago. Between 27,500 and 4,600 intermediate...
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    I agree! If a sample has ancestral alleles for...

    I agree! If a sample has ancestral alleles for any of the 311 SNPs then it can’t be considered fully I1. 20 ancestral values seems to me to be pretty conclusive for not being I1 as we know it today....
  17. I am downstream of Z382 myself which most likely...

    I am downstream of Z382 myself which most likely originated in Sweden. My story is kind of the opposite of yours. Looks like my paternal ancestors went from Sweden to the British Isles and then to...
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    Hi! Your Italian I1 is probably due to either...

    Hi! Your Italian I1 is probably due to either Langobard or Norman migration. However, it could be from the Goths or Vandals as well. If you are serious about learning more I recommend upgrading to...
  19. Thread: Sampling Bias

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    My understanding is that the Hungary sample from...

    My understanding is that the Hungary sample from the Neolithic tested positive for I-M253. However, I’m not sure how many of the other 308 SNPs associated with I1 it was tested for and whether or not...
  20. Thread: Sampling Bias

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    All of the I1 ancient dna samples should be...

    All of the I1 ancient dna samples should be retested for deeper subclades to determine if they are extinct or extant branches on the I1 Haplotree. At the very least they should be retested for I-DF29...
  21. Thread: Sampling Bias

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    Sampling Bias

    Sweden: 1291/2850=45%, 10m
    Norway: 579/1537=38%, 5m
    Denmark: 202/555=36%, 6m
    Iceland: 42/132=32%, 0.3m
    Finland: 664/2421=27%, 6m
    Netherlands: 229/983=23%, 17m
    England: 2176/10996=20%, 55m
    UK:...
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    This is an excellent point regarding the I-M253...

    This is an excellent point regarding the I-M253 Hungary sample. For me I1 is I-M253 + 308 other SNPs so if ancient dna is only tested for one of those 309 SNPs it’s a stretch to label it as I1. This...
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    Hopefully they will test deeper subclades than...

    Hopefully they will test deeper subclades than just I-M253 or R-U106. It would be nice to start correlating subclades from 3,000-1,000 ybp with actual ancient dna samples.
  24. Here are percentages for I-M253 based on the...

    Here are percentages for I-M253 based on the Ftdna Haplotree. I might add more countries later. Minimum of at least 25 kits positive for I-M253.

    Sweden: 1,291/2,850= 45%
    Norway: 579/1,537= 38%...
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    I just received part of my Big Y-500 results...

    I just received part of my Big Y-500 results namely the STR matches. Based on my STR results and some other information I learned from the administrator of the Z382 project my migration story has...
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