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    I will see what I can do

    I will see what I can do
  2. Thread: T1a2b Members

    by torzio
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    I believe T split off into the current 4 groups...

    I believe T split off into the current 4 groups of T1a1, T1a2, T1a3 and T2-Ph110 in Central-Asia ( southern Kazakhstan area) .....................T ydna belong under Haplogroup LT and further back...
  3. Thread: T1a2b Members

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    Bithynia was ancient Thracians and Phrygia was...

    Bithynia was ancient Thracians and Phrygia was direct south of Bithynia ................different people from what I read about

    no idea if you are roman soldier.............but many thracians...
  4. Thread: T1a2b Members

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    The oldest people in Veneto/friuli regions of...

    The oldest people in Veneto/friuli regions of Italy ,where the https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Euganei .................they are said to be kicked out of the plains of Veneto when the Veneti arrived...
  5. Thread: T1a2b Members

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    you come from an ancient area which was a mix of...

    you come from an ancient area which was a mix of ...Palaic people and Bithynia was thracian people .................they spoke https://www.britannica.com/topic/Anatolian-languages/Palaic

    I got...
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    This split basically breaks off from T1a2-CTS3767...

    This split basically breaks off from T1a2-CTS3767 .............formed 7500 ybp, TMRCA 3900 ybp

    so we have split off a very very long time ago
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    in the Sicilian paper there are 34 x T...

    in the Sicilian paper there are 34 x T ..........26 are T1a1 .........8 are T1a2 ................do you have any records apart that they are T1a2-CTS933....this group...
  8. interesting so Broion ( Veneto ) only has...

    interesting


    so Broion ( Veneto ) only has R1b and G2a3

    and Marche has I2b and I2d


    the first paper of Covolini de Broion 2017
    https://tel.archives-ouvertes.fr/tel-02063939/document
  9. Sticky: Distance to: Torziok12b 6.24041233 22.20%...

    Distance to:
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    6.24041233
    22.20% VK286_Denmark_(NW_Italian-like) + 77.80% VK146_UK_Oxford_(NE_Italian-like)


    6.32508813
    22.60% VK90_Denmark_(NW_Italian-like) + 77.40%...
  10. Sticky: running only these vikings for myself ...

    running only these vikings for myself



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    6.71382901
    VK146_UK_Oxford_(NE_Italian-like)
  11. I know ,....there are too many theories This...

    I know ,....there are too many theories

    This from more Herodotus

    After this Cambyses planned three expeditions, against the Carchedonians,8 against the Ammonians, and against the “long-lived”9...
  12. Memnon as per Herodotus referred to the...

    Memnon as per Herodotus referred to the light-skinned africans from libya in his Iliad book

    Many texts state this for
    . Herodotus (1.46) used Λιβύη Libúē to indicate the African continent; the...
  13. IIRC, does not the Bergamo have also some eastern...

    IIRC, does not the Bergamo have also some eastern swiss and tyrolese in it as well ? ...............I recall it heading north through Sondrio and also eastwards towards bolzano .............or is...
  14. Sticky: do you have VK398 ?

    do you have VK398 ?
  15. sometimes it is just bad authors/scribes ...like...

    sometimes it is just bad authors/scribes ...like the ethiopions of the trojan wars by herodous

    he states

    Memnon and the "Aethiopians" ................these people are from Libya

    it was Greek...
  16. Sticky: and the illyrians all disappeared below replaced...

    and the illyrians all disappeared below replaced by halstatt celts



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    1.07534456
  17. Sticky: after post 283 the only change with adding...

    after post 283

    the only change with adding these vikings for me is that my "illyrian" numbers change greatly



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  18. welcome There are 3 of us here with the line...

    welcome

    There are 3 of us here with the line T1a2b-L446 .................we all go to T1a2b-Z19945 or beyond

    what is your Ftdna number ID ........as I match someone from Estonia/Latvia ...
  19. Sticky: no change for me after data added from post#277 ...

    no change for me after data added from post#277

    I am interested in the high % of the bold ones though




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    Sticky: mineee Distance to: TorzioK13 ...

    mineee



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    32.45385493
    71.60% DA342 + 28.40% MA2203
  21. Sticky: The issue with Marinetti is that she does not...

    The issue with Marinetti is that she does not resolve the original inhabitants of the area , while Perego does

    https://www.jstor.org/stable/j.ctv3t5r28.18?seq=8#metadata_info_tab_contents
    ...
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    In contact with the person who runs this family...

    In contact with the person who runs this family line and they are H95a also have a line which is from Falze Veneto

    my search begins here...
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    This line of H95a ( found recently in the Hafner...

    This line of H95a ( found recently in the Hafner family tree ) went from Steiner to Scheider to Stanger and to Peroni 1935-1997 ...............all from Innsbruck to Trento line

    Pity the woman...
  24. Sticky: Venetic language is closest to Latin-Faliscan...

    Venetic language is closest to Latin-Faliscan than with Osco-Umbrian .................I already added a study on this in a thread here a few months ago.

    Archeologist, Perego has many papers that...
  25. Too many groups claim Illyrian origin , like the...

    Too many groups claim Illyrian origin , like the Bosnians ....here is one place called Daorson ...............see net for other articles

    https://stolacx.ba/illyrians/?lang=en

    but oldest I have...
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