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  1. How am I misrepresenting them when I quote from...

    How am I misrepresenting them when I quote from the study using the authors own words?
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    I actually like to reform our libel laws. Right...

    I actually like to reform our libel laws. Right now you have to prove malice to win a case. The standard should be that if you said something that is untrue about another person or company you should...
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    He's a story teller not a historian or an...

    He's a story teller not a historian or an ethnographer. His travels are not extensive enough to gain first hand knowledge of all the different tribes and ethnicities. Even he admits that some of what...
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    ^^^^^^^^^^^ Are they using different shapes to...

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    Are they using different shapes to differentiate among populations or are just using colors?
  5. Hmmmm... the lyra is a Thracian lyra and not a...

    Hmmmm... the lyra is a Thracian lyra and not a Pontic one. Still enjoyed it though.:awesome: I do like orchestral renditions of traditional songs toggle more depth plus the recordings are first class.
  6. If I am not mistaken, there was not one Greek...

    If I am not mistaken, there was not one Greek (from Greece) Byzantine emperor (although the Byzanties never called themselves Byzantines, they called themselves Romans).

    The Byzantine emperors...
  7. Can you please run them though the different...

    Can you please run them though the different calculators?
  8. First let's address you assertion that it was...

    First let's address you assertion that it was based on genetic analysis. Within the paragraph you quoted there were two references to other sources. One, reference 55 is "Vandorpe, K. Idnetity in...
  9. Jovialis, it's remarkable that Modern Italians...

    Jovialis, it's remarkable that Modern Italians are 3 times closer to Ancient Greeks than the first Modern Greek.
  10. Endogamy was practiced in tribal societies. From...

    Endogamy was practiced in tribal societies. From my understanding of Albanian practices men were allowed to marry outside the fara (tribe) but women were not. Albanians please chime in if I...
  11. I'm all for people marrying within their own...

    I'm all for people marrying within their own culture or not marrying within their own culture. When there are significant legal and religious and property based limits to marrying outside the tribe...
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    Maybe the Mycenaeans were the early migrants into...

    Maybe the Mycenaeans were the early migrants into Greece and the other ones came later by a century or two or three giving them more time to admix with the steppe people. Or the Mycenaeans were...
  13. My one sister who is Thracian married a mainland...

    My one sister who is Thracian married a mainland Greek from Aitoloakarnania the other married a man from Chalkidiki. So people don't necessarily marry people from their villages and small towns they...
  14. I said up to 30%. Look, modern Greeks are an...

    I said up to 30%. Look, modern Greeks are an amalgam of different admixed people. We had a lot of immigrants from Pontos, from Eastern and Northern Thrace, the Greek communities of Western Anatolia,...
  15. Does the Himera study count? Was it the Limes...

    Does the Himera study count? Was it the Limes study that established that modern Greeks have up to 30% Slavic admixture+70% Mycenaean ? All I am saying is that there were Greek outposts all over the...
  16. Congratulations to all the pure Greeks that went...

    Congratulations to all the pure Greeks that went back to Greece and brought back Greek brides and had their kids marry other Greeks. But this is not about personal experience is it? If I go by...
  17. Wanderer you actually should run GEDmatch's...

    Wanderer you actually should run GEDmatch's Oracle's for whatever calculator you're using.

    BTW, in 1940 there were 250,000 Greek descent people in Egypt. Now there are about 1,000. If this person...
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    Even a 10 month siege is way too ambitious. The...

    Even a 10 month siege is way too ambitious. The time frame of the fall of Troy is right at the rise of the Sea People and the fall of the Mycenaeans. I am not sure from what we know of the Sea People...
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    Some people even elevate Homer as a historian...

    Some people even elevate Homer as a historian when the actual archaeology does not support a 10 year war with the number of combatants present. We would have found a lot more arrowheads, swords,...
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    Not just Etruscan but Basque could be a case of...

    Not just Etruscan but Basque could be a case of women mediated language adoption. Even if the EEF men were decimated by the steppe invaders, the women kept the old EEF language. That's why you cannot...
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    If I am not mistaken he was a Greek from...

    If I am not mistaken he was a Greek from Halicarnassus surrounded by Carians and Lydians. Would not be surprised if he did not have some Carian blood.
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    Aren't mosaics primarily a Roman artistic...

    Aren't mosaics primarily a Roman artistic expression? Most Classical Greek mosaics are black and white. Very few mosaics survive from classical and Hellenistic times. Roman on the other hand...

    I...
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    It was always more southern whether it was the...

    It was always more southern whether it was the Minoan civilization, the Cycladic civilization, the Mycenaean civilization or the classical Athenian civilization. Not to diminish the material...
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    From Googling the toponyms, I have located the...

    From Googling the toponyms, I have located the them to Thessaly for Theopetra, Corinthia in Peloponnese for Perachora and around Heraklion in Crete for Sarakinos. Does anybody have more accurate...
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    Am I to understand that there were people in the...

    Am I to understand that there were people in the Aegean area with higher steppe content than the Mycenaeans? And that they came through the Southern route while we think that the Greek tribes were...
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