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  1. indeed, so draw your conclusions

    indeed, so draw your conclusions
  2. the one this thread is about please read it...

    the one this thread is about
    please read it before you comment
  3. I guess in Europe we're stuck in the green circle...

    I guess in Europe we're stuck in the green circle for the moment.
    We need to get to the next stage, but I'm afraid that is still wishfull thinking.
    To mainy people feel just fine in the green...
  4. thread already exisits : ...

    thread already exisits :

    https://www.eupedia.com/forum/threads/40126-Genetic-ancestry-changes-in-Stone-to-Bronze-Age-transition-in-the-East-European-plain?p=607429#post607429
  5. the biggest surprise in the study is the dating...

    the biggest surprise in the study is the dating
    Fatyanovo existed much earlier than what was accepted till now

    also interesting is the 12,7 ka Veretye HG R1a-YP1272
    the 8,4 ka Karelia HG was...
  6. Genetic ancestry changes in Stone to Bronze Age transition in the East European plain

    Transition from the Stone to the Bronze Age in Central and Western Europe was a period of major
    population movements originating from the Ponto-Caspian Steppe. Here, we report new genome-wide...
  7. is there also a link to the supplements?

    is there also a link to the supplements?
  8. IMO K2b and P* were born in northern India from...

    IMO K2b and P* were born in northern India from were they split.
    Many went SE into Sundaland, but PQR - ancestral to Q,R and Yana RHS went NW across the Hindu Kush into Central Asia and Siberia
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    afaik little of these cities was excavated,...

    afaik little of these cities was excavated, because they lie under thick layers of sediment
    but there are scans which show monumental buildings
    I guess for the walls and the towers, they more or...
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    complete turnovers happened not only in modern...

    complete turnovers happened not only in modern humans, also amongst Neanderthalers
    https://www.pnas.org/content/pnas/early/2020/06/15/2004944117/F1.medium.gif
    all Neanderthals prior to the most...
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    gravettians? ...

    gravettians?

    https://img.lemde.fr/2010/12/17/133/0/2048/1024/696/348/60/0/ill_1454661_ec8c_grotte-cussac.jpg
  12. check Laziridis paper on Dzudzuana DNA main...

    check Laziridis paper on Dzudzuana DNA
    main component of Iberomaurisians is Dzudzuana
  13. no, just contacts between people from Anatolia or...

    no, just contacts between people from Anatolia or the Levant with HG in SE Europe around 15 ka, just before Villabrunans (mainly I2) started to expand

    check what happened in francchthi cave ca 15...
  14. the oldest H2 individual is a HG in Israel, who...

    the oldest H2 individual is a HG in Israel, who lived there at the time of PPNB
    PPNB Israel Motza [I0867 / Motz 1] M 7300-6750 BCE H2 M2713+, M2896+, M2936+, M2942+, M2992+, M3070+ (H), P96+ (H2)....
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    on Sardegna, there is the megalithic Arzachena...

    on Sardegna, there is the megalithic Arzachena culture in the north
    I suppose you don't consider the Domus de Jana burial chambers as megalithic then, and Nuraghi were built after 2000 BC
    there are...
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    check the Laziridis paper on Dzuduana DNA from 2...

    check the Laziridis paper on Dzuduana DNA from 2 teeth 26 ka in Georgia, Transcaucasia

    Dzudzuana = 72 % pré-WHG + 28 % Basal Eurasian
    EHG = 75 % ANE + 25 % WHG
    CHG = Dzudzuana + EHG
  17. there is a clean split between H2-P96 and HM2826...

    there is a clean split between H2-P96 and HM2826 which is ancestral to both H1 and H3, the Indian clades

    https://www.yfull.com/tree/H/
  18. that may be the case for the atlatl, which...

    that may be the case for the atlatl, which appeared on many continents during or right after LGM
    but for bow and arrow it looks like magdalenians didn't have it, the hunted with the atlatl, and they...
  19. there were several succesive expansions out of...

    there were several succesive expansions out of India, IMO

    48 ka GHIJK and C1 split
    but also 45 ka K split
    K2b (PMS) split 44,3 ka
    P split in P* and P1 41,5 ka
    and P1 split 30,7 ka
    ...
  20. Cheddar man was also pré-I2-L38, a clade now...

    Cheddar man was also pré-I2-L38, a clade now extinct :
    https://www.yfull.com/tree/I-Y10705/
  21. this is not the first study that proves how...

    this is not the first study that proves how elitarian and paternalistic the megalithic societies were
    and probably also non-megalithic middle neolithic societies in Europe, like the Chasséen and...
  22. the expansion 48 ka of haplogroups C and GHIJK...

    the expansion 48 ka of haplogroups C and GHIJK was not out of Africa, but out of India
    that is my impression
    that is where new tools were developped
  23. they want to rewrite the history, which is...

    they want to rewrite the history, which is biassed, indeed
    that is ok by me, as long it is not biassed in the other way
    it is true that the colonisers did bring a lot of misery
    but they shouldn't...
  24. Ancient genomes reveal complex patterns in sub-Saharan Africa

    Africa hosts the greatest human genetic diversity globally, but legacies of ancient population interactions and dispersals across the continent remain understudied. Here, we report genome-wide data...
  25. WHG - Villabruna cluster - is proto-Gravettian,...

    WHG - Villabruna cluster - is proto-Gravettian, almost without admixture
    El Miron cluster - 15 ka Goyet Magdalenian - is Gravettian admixed with Aurignacian
    Vestonice cluster is Gravettian admixed...
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