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    Not really relevant to L283, but we have our...

    Not really relevant to L283, but we have our first sample from China now under J2 M241, specifically J-Z2432. They’re from the Sichuan area of China. This is an older branch too, which is...
  2. https://www.pnas.org/content/118/25/e2100901118 ...

    https://www.pnas.org/content/118/25/e2100901118

    I'm currently reading this study about early domesticated goats from the Zagros Mountains in Iran. Interestingly enough, the dates jive with the...
  3. L283 ancient sample in this case would have to...

    L283 ancient sample in this case would have to fall between about 1700 BC and 1400 BC. Similar age as the Dalmatian/Croatian L283 (1600 BC).
  4. You’re right about how date ranges vary by...

    You’re right about how date ranges vary by locale. Here’s a culture associated with MBA in the Balkans that is dated 1200BC to 1600BC.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tumulus_culture

    L283...
  5. That’s good information! Much appreciated. Lots...

    That’s good information! Much appreciated. Lots of ancient DNA in the pipeline, hopefully it’s one of many.
  6. Agree with all of this. Do you have any idea...

    Agree with all of this. Do you have any idea about the age of this new Bronze Age sample from northern Albania? You may have mentioned it earlier and I didn’t catch it.
  7. Check out Aspurg’s posts here as well as...

    Check out Aspurg’s posts here as well as Anthrogenica (if you haven’t already). He has some interesting theories tying specific Illyrian tribes to specific lineages within L283. I’m not sure if...
  8. Roman mediated spread of L283 to Germany makes...

    Roman mediated spread of L283 to Germany makes the most sense for most German L283s. I can’t speak for all the different branches of L283, but in the case of my branch (PH1602), the majority of...
  9. Good discussion. Thanks for sharing. The J...

    Good discussion. Thanks for sharing. The J discovered in Khvalynsk was J1. There was recently a post from “Davidski” over at his Eurogenes blog indicating Khvalynsk was out of the running for...
  10. While not relevant to the discussion re: CHG...

    While not relevant to the discussion re: CHG component, this Budjak Culture from Ukraine/Moldova area is interesting in the context of how/why L283 may have travelled NW as part of a...
  11. From user “Genos Historia” over at Eurogenes,...

    From user “Genos Historia” over at Eurogenes, fwiw:


    "Mokrin Serbia EBA is mix between Western Yamnaya and Tollense Valley-related pops.

    @0.013
    Croat BA: 41%
    Vucedol: 16%
    Welzin_BA: 43%
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    Absolutely, feel free to move over to the...

    Absolutely, feel free to move over to the aforementioned L283 thread. Probably a good idea. I don’t want to bog this L283 Proto Illyrian thread down with wild speculation about L283s possible...
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    Nice post. Yes, Hunter’s article in...

    Nice post. Yes, Hunter’s article in Phylogeographer re: a possible connection between CHG in Yamnaya and L283 is excellent. He has also updated the article as more information and theories about...
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    The big question still remains: how did L283 get...

    The big question still remains: how did L283 get to Central Europe? The provocative theory that it was a minor lineage somehow associated with the Yamnaya was first proposed, as best as I can tell,...
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    Thanks for sharing this. We have the L283...

    Thanks for sharing this. We have the L283 CTS6190 Etruscan which looks to be an Etruscan branch of L283 and then the samples from Sardinia that pop up around the Nuragic Era which is likely linked...
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    It’s always nice to read your posts. I’m an...

    It’s always nice to read your posts. I’m an American of mostly Polish ancestry looking to learn more about L283. Your posts are very informative for someone like myself trying to learn more about...
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    Another possible ancient L283?

    Comments from Davidski over at Eurogenes seem to indicate there is another ancient L283 (Eneolithic) in the pipeline from the Romania/Moldova border. Very interesting if true.

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    https://www.yfull.com/tree/J-Z38240/ Proto...

    https://www.yfull.com/tree/J-Z38240/


    Proto Illyrian/Dalmatian L283 Z38240 sample now on YFull YTree.
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    Looking at living samples in the Karachay...

    Looking at living samples in the Karachay Balkaria DNA Project, they are heavy on G2a1, G2a2, J2a1, and R1a. There is one J2b, but not sure if he’s L283 or older branch.
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    The ancient L283s all downstream from Z615...

    The ancient L283s all downstream from Z615 (Z38240 Dalmatian/Illyrian , CTS6190 Etruscan, Z631 Roman, and the Z615 Mokrin/Maros) had healthy amounts of steppe ancestry (around 30% autosomal steppe)...
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    Sure. All I’m saying is that the L283 branches...

    Sure. All I’m saying is that the L283 branches associated with Illyrians descend from L283 Z597 and downstream branches (see L283 Z38240 ancient Illyrian/Dalmatian from 1600BC). L283 Z615...
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    Additional samples should be on the way from...

    Additional samples should be on the way from Ezero Culture (Bulgaria) and parts of Aegean region and parts of Anatolia (western Turkey) that will hopefully shed additional light on migration of L283....
  23. Thread: J2 in Italy

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    The Romans definitely utilized L283s in their...

    The Romans definitely utilized L283s in their military, but L283 was in Italy long before the Romans. Reference the L283 CTS6190 Etruscan sample (700 BC) and the L283 Z622 (YP61 and YP91) from...
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    Sticky: Last question: I see screenshots in the thread...

    Last question: I see screenshots in the thread detailing distances from ancient Italian samples with minimal distance in green/yellow and more distant in red. Where are you getting these from?
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    Sticky: Question: I belong to one of the L283 branches...

    Question: I belong to one of the L283 branches parallel to the ancient Etruscan and I’m considering MyTrueAncestry. I’ve tested with both FTDNA and 23andMe. Is one file better than the other to use...
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