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    https://i.imgur.com/B8TBouO.png YFull update...

    https://i.imgur.com/B8TBouO.png


    YFull update of T-CTS3767 ...
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    I agree. It is a conundrum.

    I agree. It is a conundrum.
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    I have written to YFull. It took FTDNA awhile to...

    I have written to YFull.
    It took FTDNA awhile to realize that CTS8489 and CTS8862 are not the same. Apparently YFull is playing "Catch up".
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    "what does it say when you hover mouse of number...

    "what does it say when you hover mouse of number 44 ?"

    It gives me no further info when I put the cursor on 44.
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    YFull SNP check for CTS8862 ...

    YFull SNP check for CTS8862


    https://i.imgur.com/06ZVWdT.jpg
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    Am I able to send you that additional info as an...

    Am I able to send you that additional info as an attachment?
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    Well, I am confused.... For CTS8862 I get four...

    Well, I am confused....
    For CTS8862 I get four stars and a negative. That does not sound like a terminal SNP does it?
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    torzio, Can you read that alright? I was...

    torzio,

    Can you read that alright? I was going to delete it and try again.
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    https://i.imgur.com/fMi5tAn.jpg

    https://i.imgur.com/fMi5tAn.jpg
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    FTDNA has me negative for CTS8862 YFull has...

    FTDNA has me negative for CTS8862
    YFull has CTS8862 as a "terminal SNP"
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    Yes, that is my 2nd great grandfather Patrick...

    Yes, that is my 2nd great grandfather Patrick Walsh.
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    ....on FTDNA: NEGATIVE - CTS8862 PRESUMED...

    ....on FTDNA:

    NEGATIVE - CTS8862
    PRESUMED NEGATIVE - Z19944, Z19945, CTS9984
    POSITIVE - CTS8489, CTS10538, Y26649, Z19951, Z19953


    Two distinct different set of results when it comes to the...
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    YFull has their updated YTree.....YTree v7.09.01...

    YFull has their updated YTree.....YTree v7.09.01 at 25 November 2019

    They have CTS8862 as one of my terminal SNPs...along with CTS8489, CTS10538, CTS9984, Y26649, Z19944, Z19951 and Z19953.
  14. Thanks for that, torzio.

    Thanks for that, torzio.
  15. This deals with the subject of Anatolia, in...

    This deals with the subject of Anatolia, in reference to Varna:

    https://indo-european.eu/tag/varna/
  16. I get all of that....for the most part. Just...

    I get all of that....for the most part.
    Just wondering if sharing SNPs with him tends to favor more towards him being a direct ancestor....as opposed to an incredibly distant "cousin".
  17. "All y Ts should be positive with Golden Man, ...

    "All y Ts should be positive with Golden Man,

    T-M184 is the Top Dog, the Father of all of us, I think..."

    Wouldn't it be just as probable for him to be a brother or uncle of the "Golden...
  18. http://scaledinnovation.com/gg/snpTracker.html ...

    http://scaledinnovation.com/gg/snpTracker.html appears to have CTS8489 right where the Elite leader of the Varna Culture ( western Black sea coast ) would have been.
  19. ooooo my Papaaaaa :77: :innocent:

    ooooo my Papaaaaa :77: :innocent:
  20. Hello to all! I have the above mentioned...

    Hello to all!

    I have the above mentioned Y3804/FGC1231+ and Z7767/FGC1179+ SNPs in my Y Tree.
    What significance should I read into that?
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    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hattians - ...

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hattians

    - Hatti (/ˈhæti/ )

    - Hattians ( /ˈhætiənz/ ) - Germanic name of Haid, Hait or Heit ??


    ...
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    Thanks for that, torzio.

    Thanks for that, torzio.
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    Were the Thracians ever in northern asia minor?...

    Were the Thracians ever in northern asia minor?
    I now see that they were in Anatolia, among other nearby areas....and Pannonia.
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    Krum, Alemanni. The Alemanni (also Alamanni;...

    Krum,

    Alemanni. The Alemanni (also Alamanni; Suebi "Swabians") were a confederation of Germanic tribes on the Upper Rhine River.

    In 496, the Alemanni were conquered by Frankish leader Clovis...
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    Krum, "Moyat Y-DNA me prosledyava imeto...

    Krum,

    "Moyat Y-DNA me prosledyava imeto "Hait", koeto e vŭzmozhno armenski proizkhod"

    Fascinating!.....and you are haplogroup "E".
    I will have to do some research and find out if haplogroups...
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