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    Yeah, they've mixed up the location. Sample I4331...

    Yeah, they've mixed up the location. Sample I4331 is the one found in croatian coast, from Mathieson 2018. Pretty big mistake.
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    Hm, that's odd. Does this site list all its...

    Hm, that's odd. Does this site list all its sources for its references? the number for the "illyrian" sample is I4331, any clue which study it could be from? I'm guessing they mixed up the name.
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    Not related to your comment, but im not so...

    Not related to your comment, but im not so familiar with Serbian Y-dna so maybe you can help. I am currently researching orthodox albanians in the north, and in the Zhica charter of 1220 150 names...
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    One important linguistic evidence to keep in mind...

    One important linguistic evidence to keep in mind is from pg 182 which is copy pasted the previous comment.

    Specifically, Katicic mentions Emona in Slovenia, and that there are 3 visible layers...
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    Ah right, didn't know about that study. Thanks...

    Ah right, didn't know about that study. Thanks for the papers, I will make sure to learn more about vatin.
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    Smyrna has a quite large Albanian population that...

    Smyrna has a quite large Albanian population that are mostly assimilated today as turks. A big chunk of them are refugees from the Nish sanxhak from 1877-1878.

    Can you recommend me some good works...
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    As usual, interesting post rich in content. I...

    As usual, interesting post rich in content.

    I will clarify my position, but there is a lot to work here and I may forget parts and comment extra parts later.

    By "simplified meme" I refer to...
  8. If you wish to know, you need to test your...

    If you wish to know, you need to test your y-chromosome deeper, to see which branch of Ev13 you belong to, and then this will allow you to compare within a more recent timeframe to closer cousins.
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    Its unlikely Gedmatch can pick up on something...

    Its unlikely Gedmatch can pick up on something like that after 2000 years.

    If you wish to know whether your EV13 is pre-roman celtic lineage or Illyrian/or Thracian roman lineage, you should...
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    Btw, the name "Dasos" according to Radoslav...

    Btw, the name "Dasos" according to Radoslav Katicic (Rest in Peace, he died yesterday) belongs to the Delmato-Pannonian name system (although I think they are both the same language personally).
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    Fascinating

    Fascinating
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    In the EM35 project you are there under EV13 -...

    In the EM35 project you are there under EV13 - Ungrouped. This means you share the same paternal ancestor with anybody else that is EV13 within the last ~4800 years but that they haven't been able to...
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    If you did Ftdna Y-67 you should know more than...

    If you did Ftdna Y-67 you should know more than E-M35, of which EV13 is a clade of. You need to check which clade of EV13 before saying whether it would have been illyrian or whatever, etc.
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    In Veneti art, we see priestesses wearing a dress...

    In Veneti art, we see priestesses wearing a dress similar to the Albanian Xhubleta, which Baron Franz Nopcsa believed was related to the Minoan priestess dress.

    The Ancient Veneti people of Italy...
  15. Maciamo, from the 2018 Grugni paper on Italian...

    Maciamo, from the 2018 Grugni paper on Italian Y-dna we know that in Apulia and Po Valley there is elevated EV13 and J2b2 and the authors explicitly states that the migration pattern of it is from...
  16. Venetic people were not slavs or balts. Their...

    Venetic people were not slavs or balts. Their language is an isolate branch in between italo-celtic and illyric branch.
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    https://scontent.fprn2-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/fr...

    https://scontent.fprn2-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/fr/cp0/e15/q65/67632231_669126930270092_5883036805225250816_o.jpg?_nc_cat=101&efg=eyJpIjoidCJ9&_nc_oc=AQmg3_MhcbHjSzr31u532DQq_adnbvZ8nvjUKpLSVlOanoXmnS...
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    Iapygians ...

    Iapygians

    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EBHWGv-XsAI6PQ7?format=jpg&name=large
    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EBHWGv9XUAECKzy?format=png&name=900x900...
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    J2b2-l283 is on illyrian coast since antiquity...

    J2b2-l283 is on illyrian coast since antiquity (mathieson). It is found in elevated levels in Apulia and Po Valley in Italy, places where there were illyrian settlements. Nothing bulgarian about it.
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    "Y-chromosome haplogroups from Hun, Avar and...

    "Y-chromosome haplogroups from Hun, Avar and conquering Hungarian period nomadic people of theCarpathian Basin"

    "Most individuals buried with rich grave goods show Mongoloid characters indicating...
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    We already saw with huns and avar paper that...

    We already saw with huns and avar paper that their typical groups are Q, N, and even a lot of I2a. The only J2 that was found was J2a, which is found more in Greeks. Obvious troIling is obvious.
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    Thats absolutely wrong and J2b2-L283 distribution...

    Thats absolutely wrong and J2b2-L283 distribution is literally the opposite of bulgar presence in Albania. j2b2-l283 is most concentrated in north-west Albanians, highland clans. Its least present in...
  23. http://www.njekomb.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/06/...

    http://www.njekomb.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/06/pidemont.jpg
  24. What were Y-lineages of the Illyrians of Italy

    We are already aware of Messapics and such. But what about the Illyrians that, according to Leonard Robert Palmer, assimilated into the east italics and oscans. He even says something interesting...
  25. Something which further problematizes a central...

    Something which further problematizes a central european origin of Greek is Mycenaean Y-Dna being J2a.

    This fits perfectly the model proposed by Eric Hamp in 2013 where Greek is originally part...
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