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    I made a map explaining this scenario a while...

    I made a map explaining this scenario a while back

    https://i.imgur.com/1jMF7QM.png

    But Reich never mentioned that they found the Yamnaya paternal lineages south. He just stated "Anatolia was...
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    It's not really the "Anatolian hypothesis". That...

    It's not really the "Anatolian hypothesis". That one stated that IEs all went to Europe through Anatolia.

    This is simply stating that IEs originated in the Middle East, with 1 early branch going...
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    I don't really care if PIE originated north or...

    I don't really care if PIE originated north or south of the Caucaus mountains. I just want the raw data to look at it for myself, and hopefully so are most people.

    But it's quite clear that...
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    I've never seen a paper be delayed like this....

    I've never seen a paper be delayed like this. It's truly astonishing. It's been on the works for years, and now it's "hopefully" next year, meaning it may even be released in 2024 or beyond. Maybe...
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    Do you have any info on that southern arc paper?...

    Do you have any info on that southern arc paper? They're really exaggerating at this point.
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    What American media? I've known plenty of Jews in...

    What American media? I've known plenty of Jews in my life. Most are pretty pale with dark hair.

    I never said anything about them having light hair. Read what I said. I said light hair in adults is...
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    These features change with the wind. Ashkenazi...

    These features change with the wind. Ashkenazi Jews plot south of southern Europeans and are a European-Middle Eastern mixture, and they're very pale. Probably because their allowed occupations in...
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    Are we ever going to get this freaking paper?...

    Are we ever going to get this freaking paper? Kept waiting until July 13 for that talk, and still nothing. Jfc, it's been talked about for years. What are these people hiding?
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    Except I never disagreed with David Reich, did I?...

    Except I never disagreed with David Reich, did I? You are having arguments in your head with imaginary people.

    All I said, is I don't take what these people say as dogma, as archeogenetics is a...
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    Ok dude. Let's take what academics say at face...

    Ok dude. Let's take what academics say at face value.

    David Anthony in 2019 "PIE originated in EHGs"

    David Reich in 2022 "No"

    Who am I supposed to believe? These people change their minds...
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    It could be. The only issue is we have not found...

    It could be. The only issue is we have not found the origin of M269 yet. It just "appears" in Yamnaya. But given its dating of >13,000 years it should be found in Khvalynsk if they were indeed the...
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    Well if those borders are separated by...

    Well if those borders are separated by geographical features, military, language, culture, then yeah it would.
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    Does more harm than good imo, because there is no...

    Does more harm than good imo, because there is no clear "border". That's not how humans work. People think it's some kind of law, when we've found clear exceptions. This was the Roman Empire, not the...
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    Because it's not about individuals. It's about...

    Because it's not about individuals. It's about reality/facts. Academics on average are more knowledgeable, but on average =/= right all the time.

    As for medical advice, medicine is not...
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    I don't know how much knowledge you have of...

    I don't know how much knowledge you have of academia, but most of these people are not savants like you make them out to be. They're regular people who've made plenty of idiotic mistakes, especially...
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    You mean the very same people that for the first...

    You mean the very same people that for the first 10-15 years of archeogenetics wrote all sorts of garbage and solidified wrong opinions amongst people?

    Let's not pretend like geneticists are PhD...
  17. Dude got fleeced by Matzinger into spending 300...

    Dude got fleeced by Matzinger into spending 300 dollars on a useless book and now can't go back because of sunk cost fallacy :laughing::laughing:

    Maybe just cut your losses?
  18. Jirecek Line is useless in determining anything...

    Jirecek Line is useless in determining anything about Albanians, since Albanian was already heavily Latinized before it took effect.

    "while the area was under pre-Byzantine Roman rule, "even in...
  19. Maybe do more than 10 minutes of research and...

    Maybe do more than 10 minutes of research and you'll find out how.

    Albanoi were mentioned in 150 AD. Geg/Tosk split precedes Slavic migration. Likely happened before 500 AD around Shkumbin river....
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    Well I'm trying to reconcile David Reich's...

    Well I'm trying to reconcile David Reich's abstract with what we have so far. Obviously they discovered a new pocket of DNA in the Middle East.

    Although it seems that their largest proof seems to...
  21. The funny thing is that I pointed out that there...

    The funny thing is that I pointed out that there are a lot of shk/shq (q comes from k) native words in Albanian.

    For example, "shqyej" (Proto-Alb *skanja) is related to the Greek word "schizo"...
  22. No I don't, because we were actually talking...

    No I don't, because we were actually talking about Roman Empire Illyrians. They are the perfect representation of Proto-Albanians.

    This dude is talking about Iron Age Illyrians before the Romans...
  23. I love how this dude goes to "Paeonia" directly....

    I love how this dude goes to "Paeonia" directly. Could you be more disingenuous? :laughing: The south of modern day Macedonia was part of old Macedonia. But let's say it was Paeonia. Paeonia, that...
  24. "Their proof" is I quoted 2 linguists saying the...

    "Their proof" is I quoted 2 linguists saying the same thing

    Istvan Schutz "The name of the Dalmatian/Delmata Illyrian tribe, Dalmatia/Delmatia area, the Illyrian city Delminium/Dalmion, and the...
  25. Or. Or. Hear me out. Albanians are actually the...

    Or. Or. Hear me out. Albanians are actually the Albanoi.

    I love how these people start with the assumption that they're not ‚ÄčIllyrian, and work backwards.
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