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  1. 30% Slavic component? Thatís like the total...

    30% Slavic component? Thatís like the total average Steppe component Albanians can have.

    How does a male dominated migration with ~15% Slavic y-dna representation in the country contributes with...
  2. Just to be clear, I was referring to what I read...

    Just to be clear, I was referring to what I read from forums about upcoming tests from BA or IA North Albania, not modern North Albanians.

    In case you meant modern North Albanians, they (we) are...
  3. Thanks for the explanation. I agree with you on...

    Thanks for the explanation. I agree with you on this.

    No idea what WGS is but once those North Albania results are out I'll be interested to check it for myself too.
  4. So basically according to this the Steppe in...

    So basically according to this the Steppe in Albanians is 20%. Fair enough and in accordance to other charts Iíve seen.

    How much of it is Indo-European, Central-North European, or Slavic is up to...
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    Could be, Iím confused by all this autosomal...

    Could be, Iím confused by all this autosomal thingy. If these tests can pick up such ancient ancestries from Messapians and Iapygians 3000 years ago, why Albanians donít get 20-40% Ukraine/Belarus...
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    With the latest update 2 of my friends went from...

    With the latest update 2 of my friends went from 2 or 3% to 0% Balkan and 100% Albania and Greece.

    What did that 2-3% Balkan mean anyway?
  7. Ok, thanks for the clarifications. In that...

    Ok, thanks for the clarifications.

    In that case Iíll stick to ďuna faccia una razzaĒ and trust my eyes until further progress in autosomal analysis.
  8. Am I seeing something wrong or the map shows...

    Am I seeing something wrong or the map shows similarities to Albanians and Bulgarians too?
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  9. Im not saying they plot together with Germans or...

    Im not saying they plot together with Germans or Danes, Iím just saying theyíre pulled more West and this is evident even from the 2 maps you provided.

    Although these maps (especially the second...
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    @Riverman I did not intend to say that E-V13 was...

    @Riverman I did not intend to say that E-V13 was Daco-Pannonian, I just used it as an example that it could have been Dacian while not Thracian and Pannonian while not Central and South Illyrian.
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    ďThe first legion attested at Viminacium was the...

    ďThe first legion attested at Viminacium was the VII Claudia that came from Dalmatia in 52 AD.Ē

    ďÖwhen Legio IV Scythica was transferred from Moesia to Syria between AD 55 and 62, Legio VII...
  12. Right, Polish is the epitome of being Slavic. ...

    Right, Polish is the epitome of being Slavic.
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    The Goths (not Early Goths or Proto-Goths) were a conglomerate of Southern Scandinavians, locals, possibly other Germanics, and the fact that...
  13. I never understood why the Germanics in the...

    I never understood why the Germanics in the Balkans are completely ignored, when in my eyes they were the fathers of migrating en masse, migrating to distant locations, and settling somewhere else....
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    @Riverman, what makes you think E-V13 was...

    @Riverman, what makes you think E-V13 was Daco-Thracian exclusively and J2b2 was Illyrian instead of Italic for instance, or another unrecorded non-Indo-European like Raetians or Etruscans?

    Why...
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    What we can say with confidence as of now is that...

    What we can say with confidence as of now is that our upstream Z17107 was already a local in the Balkans during the Iron Age since it was found in the locals of Viminacium (near Kostolac, Serbia) and...
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    Ok, so just like me youíre also Y97307, meaning...

    Ok, so just like me youíre also Y97307, meaning we have a common ancestor minimum 1700 years ago, but for sure youíll have more information downstream which could bring us closer (or not).

    My...
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    Hi Gedzo, if it helps Iím myself...

    Hi Gedzo, if it helps Iím myself E-V13>>CTS9320>Z17107>Z38456>BY4461. Another thing that might help you is your ancestorís or clans place of origin. For instance, if youíre originally from Montenegro...
  18. I see youíre struggling a lot with the ancient...

    I see youíre struggling a lot with the ancient authors as to who would categorize as Illyrii proprie dicti or Illyrii perperam dicti.

    We donít care as itís just a geographical term used for...
  19. This! Thank you for pointing out the obvious. ...

    This! Thank you for pointing out the obvious.

    Even if Albanians had 0% Slavic and 0% East Med and whatnot, we canít overlap with every sample discovered in the extremities of the Balkans (namely...
  20. Strange how North Albanians and Alb from...

    Strange how North Albanians and Alb from Montenegro have a North-Western shift rather than East. Indeed, the mostly Gothic (minority Norman) Y-DNA could be an indicator. Iíd expect that Alb from...
  21. On the contrary, itís you who doesnít understand...

    On the contrary, itís you who doesnít understand what weíre saying.

    1) I said that Arvanites settled in the Greek islands, thus mainland Greeks must have done the same. Got attacked by you...
  22. Im with you in this one. I believe the Slavic...

    Im with you in this one. I believe the Slavic input in Albanians is overestimated. Who do they use as an Albanian proxy, people from Korca?

    Hopefully weíll get more samples around Albania and we...
  23. Ok, thanks, Iíll check them. I donít feel...

    Ok, thanks, Iíll check them.

    I donít feel offended at all. I personally know a guy that gets 22% Balkan on Ancestry while I get 100% Southern European and the Eastern regions of Albania have...
  24. 25? This paper is claiming more like 40%....

    25? This paper is claiming more like 40%. According to them Albanians are as Slavic as the 10th century Kuline samples. But at the same time they post charts where Albanians plot very near the local...
  25. Itís page 18 of this topic, didnít you know the...

    Itís page 18 of this topic, didnít you know the samples are collected from settlements located in modern Serbia?

    No wonder you keep asking about Bosnia and Montenegro, as well as mentioning...
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