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    I have thought about that too. A large part of...

    I have thought about that too. A large part of Adriatic was a a plain during the LGM.

    Also (this may be important for other haplogroups or an important parallel at least), part of the Aegean sea...
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    Which timeframe? TMRCA is important for the...

    Which timeframe? TMRCA is important for the living descendants, not the place of origin, if we are talking about the area where it formed.
    Early samples do not prove it did not exist earlier...
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    It can be native in Balkans. It is more...

    It can be native in Balkans. It is more economical to assume it is native.

    There were probably hunter gatherers in parts of Balkans maybe similar to Anatolian HGs. It could have existed among...
  4. The interesting thing imho is the following: ...

    The interesting thing imho is the following:

    It seems that some Ionic Greeks had Y-DNA J2a-Y14434 (taking into account Spata and Phocis samples). The Pelagonians in what is now North Macedonia...
  5. In the study they have an example of movements...

    In the study they have an example of movements (establishment of colonies and emporia) without admixture: Phoceans move from mainland Greece to Anatolia, from Anatolia to Marseille and then Catalonia...
  6. He doesn't say what you say. Movements from...

    He doesn't say what you say.

    Movements from Anatolia are consistent with the myths e.g. the myth o Pelops who is presented as Lydian or Phrygian. Movements from Levant are also consistend with...
  7. Whatever. Your issues are psychological. The...

    Whatever. Your issues are psychological. The point is you should not use Herodotus to support whatever you want to support. He is more of an 'autochthonist'.
    "Hellenes" while they presented as...
  8. First of all Herodotus has an almost anti-Ionian...

    First of all Herodotus has an almost anti-Ionian bias and Halikarnassos was a Dorian colony. Secondly he equates Dorians with Hellenes and the Makednoi, something not seen anywhere else,

    His...
  9. Greeks or some Greeks had a small EHG shift but...

    Greeks or some Greeks had a small EHG shift but on the Skourtanioti paper 'Minoans' and 'Mycenaeans' essentially form a cluster with Tepecik-Ciftlik..

    Imho it is theoretically possible...
  10. Imho this paper is a ridiculous attempt to save...

    Imho this paper is a ridiculous attempt to save the 'steppe hypothesis', not really oppose it.

    Yamnaya itself may not have been IE in the first place.

    Now we see another R1b-rich non-IE group...
  11. What is now North Macedonia was not inhabited by...

    What is now North Macedonia was not inhabited by Greeks.

    The Pelagonians though near what is now Bitola appear Greek, Greek-related or Greek-like and samples inside or near (?) that region were...
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    There are some people of European background...

    There are some people of European background usually that like to present Indoeuropeans as 'warlike' but 'pre-indo-Europeans' or non-Indpoeuropeans as 'peaceful' or weak in one way or another etc....
  13. It is pseudoscientific. But the results reflect...

    It is pseudoscientific. But the results reflect self-perception. Maybe culture affects self-perception.
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    David Anthony is an anthropologist, not an...

    David Anthony is an anthropologist, not an archaeologist. And he talks about genetics, archaeology, linguistics. Certainly not an expert on these fields.

    Reich and those around him can and should...
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    I was never a fan of Maciamo either. I used to...

    I was never a fan of Maciamo either. I used to disagree on almost everything.

    I did not believe proto-Greeks and Mycenaeans had Z2103. (But that certain suclades could have arrived from more than...
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    He had used the phrase 'Sintashta clones' on...

    He had used the phrase 'Sintashta clones' on Anthrogenica. Find it to see what he had said exactly. Maybe it was more nuanced* than what I remember. Can you find it? If you can't find it don't quote...
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    The TMRCA? And where it expands? I think people...

    The TMRCA? And where it expands? I think people with that subclade may have moved west around 1200BC. Further back in time it can be Semetic related. I believe many would consider it Phoenician. (?)...
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    Imho it can be Trojan (maybe a minor lineage,...

    Imho it can be Trojan (maybe a minor lineage, whatever its origins further back are). Maybe he had ancestors in Cilicia.
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    He had said it somewhere else, yes (on...

    He had said it somewhere else, yes (on anthrogenica). Though I don't remember the exact words. Maybe the wording wasn't as bad as I remember it.
    These were his positions after the Mathieson et al....
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    You should wonder what YOUR point is because YOU...

    You should wonder what YOUR point is because YOU quoted me.
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    Are you his representative? See if he had used...

    Are you his representative? See if he had used the phrase 'Sintashta clones' on Anthrogenica too and post that too to get the whole picture.
    Those who have 'Sintashta horse bits as grave goods' can...
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    Wait for an ancient Ionic sample and use other...

    Wait for an ancient Ionic sample and use other sources that could make historical sense e.g. a 'Colchian' CHG heavy source. Maybe Iranic (Persian), Anatolian (Cappadocian) and Semetic ('White...
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    The questions I have are - Where is the...

    The questions I have are

    - Where is the Bronze Age R1a-Z283 from?
    - Where are the Mesolithic J2a-L26 from?
    - Where is the Mesolithic I1 from?

    Also what is their autosomal profile?

    And...
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    Davidski had said that Mycenaeans would be...

    Davidski had said that Mycenaeans would be 'Sintashta clones'. Can you mention a case where you had disagreed with him?

    Besides Sikeliot had an account on Anthrogenica for quite some time even...
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    What is exotic about these haplogroups?

    What is exotic about these haplogroups?
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