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  1. My belief is that Slavs that migrated to Balkans...

    My belief is that Slavs that migrated to Balkans were Ukrainian-like not Serb-like. Look how shifted away are Serbs from Albanians towards Ukrainians.



    Target: Serb
    Distance: 1.0816% /...
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    My belief is Balkan, one Visigoth was...

    My belief is Balkan, one Visigoth was Serbian-like if I remember it well.
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    I was wrong it pushes over 3% in some regions.

    I was wrong it pushes over 3% in some regions.
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    What subclades? What are you even talking about? ...

    What subclades? What are you even talking about? I have made a post that maybe E-V13 could be partly Italic given how spread it is in Italy, unlike in Iberia. Even though J2b has popped out but not...
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    In Iberia E-V13 seem to be mostly VisiGothic. It...

    In Iberia E-V13 seem to be mostly VisiGothic. It does not extend 3% in any province.
    Some real Germanic lines (as I1) were spread with post antiquity European movement.
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    I have changed my mind about E-V13 in Ancient...

    I have changed my mind about E-V13 in Ancient Peloponnese, I think it existed but it was not very mainstream compared to J2a.
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    E-V13 in Apulia and Abruzzo was likely increased...

    E-V13 in Apulia and Abruzzo was likely increased by Western Balkanites fleeing Slavs and Turks during and after the Middle Ages.
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    No it would not be offensive for me either....

    No it would not be offensive for me either. Shalom.
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    You don't get what I was saying. Hey watch your...

    You don't get what I was saying.
    Hey watch your tongue, it's not my fault your ancestors were Ottoman Laz dhimmis that spoke Greek bilingually.

    Adjarian, H; "√Čtude sur la langue Laze"; M√©moires...
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    You are lucky that Ancient Greeks were heavily...

    You are lucky that Ancient Greeks were heavily J2a and G2a, so we cannot distinguish them with the Anatolian lines. Unfortunately not all have that luck.

    Either way neither of our opinion is...
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    Using a very distant northeastern source and...

    Using a very distant northeastern source and Middle Bronze Age sample from Balkans. 90% native, I'll take it.


    Target: Albanian
    Distance: 1.8596% / 0.01859614



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    Aww you did a great job defending your case. ...

    Aww you did a great job defending your case.

    Here is an "attack" to the Turks.

    https://qph.fs.quoracdn.net/main-qimg-377d82d409daeeb500a27336716259b5
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    Wait until we have Iron Ages natives of Pontus so...

    Wait until we have Iron Ages natives of Pontus so you can use it then.
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    You are entitled to your wrong opinion that is...

    You are entitled to your wrong opinion that is fine. Let's not derail this thread any more.
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    No I was not assuming that. Read again, I was...

    No I was not assuming that. Read again, I was showing that they are not 30% shifted away from Armenians to shows Bekas that his calculation is not accurate. Please read again.
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    As I said before I have tested K12b and G25 they...

    As I said before I have tested K12b and G25 they pretty much on par with results of Academic studies in most cases and G25 in all cases. And those 2 calculator are used by 95% of the community. I...
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    Nobody is buying your BS that Pontians are...

    Nobody is buying your BS that Pontians are 33%-40% shifted towards Mycenaeans compared to Armenians. That would mean that they are closer to Dodecanese than to Armenians. And in every single PCA that...
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    https://i.imgur.com/zQlOIsQ.png ...

    https://i.imgur.com/zQlOIsQ.png

    https://i.imgur.com/mQwkAlS.jpg
    In the Daunian PCA it seems that ORD009 falls in into the Campanian cluster. But that PCA seem to be questionable.
    Overall they...
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    The Iron Age Campanian study has over 100 Ancient...

    The Iron Age Campanian study has over 100 Ancient Samples. If there is a male bias in those samples we will see a massive amount of Y-Dna from Native Southern Italians.
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    ^^ The discussion about Dienekes was over you are...

    ^^ The discussion about Dienekes was over you are a little bit late to the party.
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    Treizbond was a Laz kingdom. The natives were...

    Treizbond was a Laz kingdom. The natives were Laz.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Empire_of_Trebizond

    Keep in mind that in general Anatolia has become more Eastern shifted not just because of...
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    No where did I mention that Pontic Greeks are...

    No where did I mention that Pontic Greeks are straight up 15% Ionian and 85% Laz. But do I think it is closer to 15% than to 43%? Yes.
    I was simply correcting the method that your buddy used. I...
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    I only mentioned Dienekes because of comparison...

    I only mentioned Dienekes because of comparison with Davidski I have only searched "Albanians" once in his blog and found out about this. He is inactive I could care less about him. He gets tolerated...
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    The point is that the source that you are using...

    The point is that the source that you are using is highly unlikely to be fully representative of natives in Pontus because of the date 3000BC-3200BC and the location. The inhabitants of Serbia were...
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    You are using a sample that pre-dates the Pyramid...

    You are using a sample that pre-dates the Pyramid of Giza by 500 to 700 yeas and it's even from a different location. The Mycenaean genetic profile did not even exist in 3000BC. Pontic Greeks are...
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