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  1. Thanks :) I could understand the frustrations...

    Thanks :)

    I could understand the frustrations of a moderator who has to deal with certain agendas.
  2. I’m sorry, was this directed at me? I rarely talk...

    I’m sorry, was this directed at me? I rarely talk about the Levant, only using facts available, like YFull, modern and ancient samples, and PC’s. I have nothing to do with Anthrogenica or...
  3. The Roman Greek clusters or is close to the...

    The Roman Greek clusters or is close to the haplogroup J2a-L70 fellow from Viminacium. The Antonio et al. Rome L70 C5 sample R136 plots between Cyprus and south Italy. These two look like modern...
  4. The rumor from Eurogenes is that classical Greek...

    The rumor from Eurogenes is that classical Greek samples were heterogenous, with some Anatolia/Cyprus-like, or something like that. Some of the samples could have more Steppe or CHG/Iranian.

    Now...
  5. From mainland Greece: Vranas Marathon. 12900

    From mainland Greece: Vranas Marathon.

    12900
  6. I see we have our first sample from pre-Slavic...

    I see we have our first sample from pre-Slavic Roman Greece (sorry if someone already mentioned it and I missed it). This sample is used to model Greek islanders and has a lot of “Near Eastern”...
  7. It would be quite the thing for the Balkans to...

    It would be quite the thing for the Balkans to show pre-Slavic indigenous ancestry but the pre-Slavic mainland Greeks to be virtually totally replaced by people with a strong Anatolia Neolithic...
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    If modern Peloponnesians are a proxy for old...

    If modern Peloponnesians are a proxy for old Greek genes and have near zero ancient continuity, and Sicilians are a good representative of ancient Greek ancestry, they have quite a bit in common with...
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    Peloponnesians are a little more southern shifted...

    Peloponnesians are a little more southern shifted than Albanians, according to one PC from a recent study, maybe the Roman cities in the Balkans. Greeks also have more male J2a than J2b than...
  10. Lol, good post by you. It’s what Greeks go...

    Lol, good post by you.

    It’s what Greeks go through sometimes as well with people who deny their ancestry. If person X is from ethnic group Y, and evidence repeatedly implies an indigenous...
  11. It would be ironic because to Fallmerayer types,...

    It would be ironic because to Fallmerayer types, Slavs and others replaced ancient Greeks (up to the early Byzantine period). But if it is not the case that they were replaced, it might very well be...
  12. Thanks, I look very forward to any paper that...

    Thanks, I look very forward to any paper that might come out with early Slavic samples, as well as more from the ancient Balkans and particularly Greece. Certainly I am speculating about certain...
  13. One of this study’s conclusions is that Slavs did...

    One of this study’s conclusions is that Slavs did not completely replace Iron Age Balkan populations. Can’t recall, but did anyone argue otherwise, that Slavs almost completely replaced the natives?...
  14. I remember Thucydides was part Thracian. He was...

    I remember Thucydides was part Thracian. He was related to Cimon’s Thracian mother (just learned that). As per this study, there was quite a lot of E-V13 right next to the ancient Greek world. Hard...
  15. Looking very forward to the Mycenaean study. I...

    Looking very forward to the Mycenaean study. I hope there are some Mycenaeans and ancient Greeks who cluster autosomally with modern Balkan populations, not for my personal sake, but so that it’s not...
  16. I don’t see anyone downplaying Greek admixture...

    I don’t see anyone downplaying Greek admixture over here. Not copping to Fallmerayer does not mean admixture denial, or even substantial admixture.

    In the end we will know much better, when the...
  17. In my opinion we have too few samples and no...

    In my opinion we have too few samples and no published, robust ancient Greek study yet, so at this point it might be hard to say with confidence how much E-V13 ancient Greeks had. The haplogroup...
  18. “What does this mean in the Fellmayer context.” ...

    “What does this mean in the Fellmayer context.”

    It looks like another of the many knives in the heart of the Fallmerayer theory.

    In terms of ancient Greeks, the only samples (rumored or...
  19. Yes, one L70 sample. I was looking at a blurry...

    Yes, one L70 sample. I was looking at a blurry line in the article’s supplement section and mistook it for a second sample. I believe this sample was referred to as J-L24 when this paper was...
  20. If I’m reading correctly, two or more of the J2a...

    If I’m reading correctly, two or more of the J2a haplogroup samples are L70. *update: only one of the samples is L70. That is one of my great grandfathers’ haplogroup, so it’s interesting on a...
  21. I looked at rrenjet and saw the J2a-L70 samples,...

    I looked at rrenjet and saw the J2a-L70 samples, Y24651 and Z2148 sub-branches. They compare pretty well with what YFull has. These formed a long time ago, according to the MRCA estimates. There are...
  22. Albanian J2a is very interesting, in particular...

    Albanian J2a is very interesting, in particular J-L70, that has some Albanians with very old branches. They are together with Italians and Turks, but with very old MRCA’s. Wondering if some of their...
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    Poll: I think it’s pretty clear it came to the Balkans...

    I think it’s pretty clear it came to the Balkans with the Slavs. Dinaric should be an obsolete term. However, it appears to have first come from further west, as there are basal clades so far from...
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    Having grown up in the Greek community, it was...

    Having grown up in the Greek community, it was very exclusive. We only associated with other Greeks (no offense, it was something like the big, fat Greek wedding movie). We come from villages in the...
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    There are many new L70 samples from Turkey in...

    There are many new L70 samples from Turkey in YFull, with old MRCA’s.

    https://yfull.com/tree/J-L70/
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