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  1. interesting so Broion ( Veneto ) only has...

    interesting


    so Broion ( Veneto ) only has R1b and G2a3

    and Marche has I2b and I2d


    the first paper of Covolini de Broion 2017
    https://tel.archives-ouvertes.fr/tel-02063939/document
  2. Sticky: Distance to: Torziok12b 6.24041233 22.20%...

    Distance to:
    Torziok12b


    6.24041233
    22.20% VK286_Denmark_(NW_Italian-like) + 77.80% VK146_UK_Oxford_(NE_Italian-like)


    6.32508813
    22.60% VK90_Denmark_(NW_Italian-like) + 77.40%...
  3. Sticky: running only these vikings for myself ...

    running only these vikings for myself



    Distance to:
    Torziok12b


    6.71382901
    VK146_UK_Oxford_(NE_Italian-like)
  4. I know ,....there are too many theories This...

    I know ,....there are too many theories

    This from more Herodotus

    After this Cambyses planned three expeditions, against the Carchedonians,8 against the Ammonians, and against the “long-lived”9...
  5. Memnon as per Herodotus referred to the...

    Memnon as per Herodotus referred to the light-skinned africans from libya in his Iliad book

    Many texts state this for
    . Herodotus (1.46) used Λιβύη Libúē to indicate the African continent; the...
  6. IIRC, does not the Bergamo have also some eastern...

    IIRC, does not the Bergamo have also some eastern swiss and tyrolese in it as well ? ...............I recall it heading north through Sondrio and also eastwards towards bolzano .............or is...
  7. Sticky: do you have VK398 ?

    do you have VK398 ?
  8. sometimes it is just bad authors/scribes ...like...

    sometimes it is just bad authors/scribes ...like the ethiopions of the trojan wars by herodous

    he states

    Memnon and the "Aethiopians" ................these people are from Libya

    it was Greek...
  9. Sticky: and the illyrians all disappeared below replaced...

    and the illyrians all disappeared below replaced by halstatt celts



    Distance to:
    TorzioK12b



    1.07534456
  10. Sticky: after post 283 the only change with adding...

    after post 283

    the only change with adding these vikings for me is that my "illyrian" numbers change greatly



    Distance to:
    TorzioK12b
  11. welcome There are 3 of us here with the line...

    welcome

    There are 3 of us here with the line T1a2b-L446 .................we all go to T1a2b-Z19945 or beyond

    what is your Ftdna number ID ........as I match someone from Estonia/Latvia ...
  12. Sticky: no change for me after data added from post#277 ...

    no change for me after data added from post#277

    I am interested in the high % of the bold ones though




    Distance to:
    TorzioK12b
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    Sticky: mineee Distance to: TorzioK13 ...

    mineee



    Distance to:
    TorzioK13


    32.45385493
    71.60% DA342 + 28.40% MA2203
  14. Sticky: The issue with Marinetti is that she does not...

    The issue with Marinetti is that she does not resolve the original inhabitants of the area , while Perego does

    https://www.jstor.org/stable/j.ctv3t5r28.18?seq=8#metadata_info_tab_contents
    ...
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    In contact with the person who runs this family...

    In contact with the person who runs this family line and they are H95a also have a line which is from Falze Veneto

    my search begins here...
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    This line of H95a ( found recently in the Hafner...

    This line of H95a ( found recently in the Hafner family tree ) went from Steiner to Scheider to Stanger and to Peroni 1935-1997 ...............all from Innsbruck to Trento line

    Pity the woman...
  17. Sticky: Venetic language is closest to Latin-Faliscan...

    Venetic language is closest to Latin-Faliscan than with Osco-Umbrian .................I already added a study on this in a thread here a few months ago.

    Archeologist, Perego has many papers that...
  18. Too many groups claim Illyrian origin , like the...

    Too many groups claim Illyrian origin , like the Bosnians ....here is one place called Daorson ...............see net for other articles

    https://stolacx.ba/illyrians/?lang=en

    but oldest I have...
  19. Sticky: mine changed a little bit with these inclusions ...

    mine changed a little bit with these inclusions




    Distance to:
    VettorK12b
  20. Sticky: With info from post 242 added...mine is ...

    With info from post 242 added...mine is




    Target: Torziok12b
    Distance: 1.0953% / 1.09528753 | ADC: 0.25x RC
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    Early Alpine Occupation

    https://www.cell.com/current-biology/fulltext/S0960-9822(21)00451-6?_returnURL=https%3A%2F%2Flinkinghub.elsevier.com%2Fretrieve%2Fpii%2FS0960982221004516%3Fshowall%3Dtrue&fbclid=IwAR1mmR55XAZmbT8Hm4eP...
  22. Sticky: thanks ......I thought so as you commented to...

    thanks ......I thought so as you commented

    to conclude ...............in all of these tests in this thread, conclusion is that Illyrians and bronze-age hungarians match and are the same people...
  23. Sticky: with Salento vikings included Distance...

    with Salento vikings included




    Distance to:
    Torziok12b


    5.32530750
  24. Sticky: Distance to: Torziok12b 0.96235572 30.80%...

    Distance to:
    Torziok12b


    0.96235572
    30.80% Middle_Bronze_Age_North_Alps_(n=7) + 69.20% Late_Medieval_Latium_(n=16)



    1.28275078
  25. Sticky: Distance to: Torziok12b 5.32530750...

    Distance to:
    Torziok12b


    5.32530750
    Bronze_Age_Illyrians


    6.46840011
    Late_Medieval_Latium_(n=16)
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