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    Indeed, the Sarno (2017) paper identifies traces...

    Indeed, the Sarno (2017) paper identifies traces of Post-Neolithic Caucasus and Near-Eastern related ancestries. We already know of the Caucasus-related ancestry among the Minoans and Mycenaeans and...
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    Here is Mathieson et al.'s (2018) context for...

    Here is Mathieson et al.'s (2018) context for that statement, "In two directly dated individuals from southeastern Europe, one (ANI163) from the Varna I cemetery dated to 4711-4550 BCE and one...
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    The "casts doubt on this genetic–linguistic...

    The "casts doubt on this genetic–linguistic association" pertains more to the broader IE linguistic family and whether we should be associating "steppe" ancestry with IE linguistic expansion in...
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    Blevins, if you paid some closer attention to...

    Blevins, if you paid some closer attention to what i am writing you wouldn't have to wait for additional research and evidence. You cited Lazaridis et al.'s (2017) quote that called for additional...
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    The thing is that i am also using evidence, and...

    The thing is that i am also using evidence, and it's what i have been citing all along. Furthermore, no, i am not certain of the northern route, but it is a matter of weighing information. The reason...
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    First of all, my opinion is meant to be read not...

    First of all, my opinion is meant to be read not heard. Second, the prior comment you wrote didn't even make sense for the most part and i explained to you why. The irony is that you prompted for the...
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    Sorry, but this is just ignorant and has been...

    Sorry, but this is just ignorant and has been answered multiple times already. Mycenaean Greek is just a branch of Greek, not proto-Greek nor pre-proto-Greek (which pertains to the hypothetical...
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    You remember correct Angela. It's in the abstract...

    You remember correct Angela. It's in the abstract of all places, "However, the Mycenaeans differed from Minoans in deriving additional ancestry from an ultimate source related to the hunter-gatherers...
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    Jovialis, Reich's mention assumes a PIE homeland...

    Jovialis, Reich's mention assumes a PIE homeland in Transcaucasia. Doesn't really have to do with later stages of IE, which even in that Transcaucasian PIE model, you would need a migration north in...
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    No it's not ridiculous, quite the opposite....

    No it's not ridiculous, quite the opposite. Because 15th century censuses don't take into account the subsequent migrations into places such as southern Italy and a number of Greek islands, some...
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    I agree with Jovialis. The medieval Albanian...

    I agree with Jovialis. The medieval Albanian settlement of Greece is quite overestimated by some, especially when certain information is taken out of context. Censuses from the 1800s which focused on...
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    Linguistics are just as important in forming...

    Linguistics are just as important in forming conclusions, as genetics and archaeology are, and in fact they all compliment each other. That's why interdisciplinary analysis is crucial in these kind...
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    Don't forget the quote that relates, "Other...

    Don't forget the quote that relates, "Other proposed migrations, such as settlement by Egyptian or Phoenician colonists are not discernible in our data, as there is no measurable Levantine or African...
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    You are the one who brought up your hypothesis of...

    You are the one who brought up your hypothesis of the Anatolian route for Greek, which in this context pertains to pre-proto-Greek (IE component of Greek), not even proto-Greek. I am only repeating...
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    There is nothing to suggest that pre-proto-Greek...

    There is nothing to suggest that pre-proto-Greek (the IE component of the Greek language) came via Anatolia, as has been extensively discussed in this very same thread months ago. Then again Blevins...
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    Poll: Oh ok, i now see how you meant it. By the way,...

    Oh ok, i now see how you meant it. By the way, now that i looked at it quickly i found 22 G2a samples from the Vinča, Starčevo, and Cucuteni-Trypillian cultures between 8000-4800 ybp, not 16 as you...
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    Poll: That's not totally accurate either. Regarding the...

    That's not totally accurate either. Regarding the Balkans during ~8000-3000 BCE, i am aware of the following I2a:
    I2529 - Bulgaria - 5726-5575 BCE - I2a1b (I-M436)
    I2165 - Bulgaria - 3020-2895 BCE...
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    Poll: Let me also remind you of two rumored Mycenaean...

    Let me also remind you of two rumored Mycenaean samples supposedly belonging to R1b. They were first mentioned in Anthrogenica by Ryukendo and Eurogenes (Generalissimo). But again, these are just...
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    Poll: No, we don't have samples from...

    No, we don't have samples from Archaic/Classical/Hellenistic Athens, Sparta, or Macedon yet. We do have samples though from the Phocaean Greek colony of Empúries (Spain), published in "The genomic...
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    Poll: They certainly carried G2a, being the predominant...

    They certainly carried G2a, being the predominant haplogroup of the Neolithic farmers who are also responsible for much of their autosomal profile. In terms of samples, we have the Neolithic sample...
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    Poll: That's not totally accurate. Indeed the Neolithic...

    That's not totally accurate. Indeed the Neolithic Balkans were predominantly G2a (some 57%), but we also had some minor I2a presence, though certainly not I-Y3120 which came later. You can see some...
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    Poll: Mate, Cucuteni-Trypillia and Vinča people lived...

    Mate, Cucuteni-Trypillia and Vinča people lived in the Neolithic/Eneolithic period, approximately 7700-4750 ybp, and obviously are unrelated to I-Y3120 that formed approximately 3400 ybp and its...
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    Poll: You refer to further downstream clades that are...

    You refer to further downstream clades that are either exclusively Greek or exclusively southern-Balkan, yet i am referring to the basal subclades of I-Y18331 which i mentioned in my prior post....
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    Poll: That Polish sample is not that new. We have...

    That Polish sample is not that new. We have already touched upon it in this thread some two months ago. He could very well be descended from an Ashkenazim Jewish family for all we know, and thus be...
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    Poll: Thank you. Yes, i haven't done any STR analysis...

    Thank you. Yes, i haven't done any STR analysis but from what i have seen FTDNA's products are considered the most popular out there.
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